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Darkglass Anagram Multi FX Announced

#121
c-ba55 said:
Not gonna watch a half hour video.
Is there a list printed of what blocks it has?
I see it has XLR output, that’s terrific
Only other two complaints about the helix…
Is there some kind of on screen level monitoring, to help set gain and compression?
Can you easily get to useful synth bass sounds?
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Here's a QuickStart guide from Sweetwater that should answer your questions

https://www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/articles/darkglass-anagram-bass-modeler-quickstart-guide/
 
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#122
silky smoove said:
So do you always play with your ear no more than 3' from a speaker, because that's roughly the equivalent of 3ms of latency.
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Yep. I make the audience crowd around my amp too. Actually I make them come up one by one and we play our entire set once for each person. Seriously though I love latency. I play my parts the day before and don't show up for the gig at all.
 
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#125
Chrishi87 said:
Somehow, somewhere Neural DSP and Darkglass are on the same ship. The same business roots.
Neural is lacking hard on updates and implementing Plugins, Bass is also treated very bad.

Now Darkglass comes with a solution to almost all problems... strange, or?
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I knew that Darkglass was sold to Korg, but I kinda thought that Neural was part of that and Darkglass was just the pedal/amp side. I was also wrong in that thinking.
 
#126
whoismarykelly said:
In order to synthesize a new pitch the unit needs to hear at minimum half the wave length of a note to identify the pitch. Then it needs to perform the processing. For an E that would mean about 12ms for half the wavelength.
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:thumbsup: Yes, this is what I'm getting at. The 1.3msec latency spec would seem to be subject to the type of processing block being used.

You grab an analog DI, plug in your bass, send the dry XLR to your DAW interface, track 1, and the 1/4" out to the Anagram, set to a pitch shift down 1 whole step and sent to DAW interface, track 2. Play the open low E string making sure the tone is bright, and played with a pick for max attack transients.
Record the performance with the the dry & processed tracks simultaneously. You can see the waveforms aren't aligned ( the processed latency ) and by how many msec.

I'd love to know what this latency spec is, if an owner could do this. Thank you.
 
#128
jimfist said:
:thumbsup: Yes, this is what I'm getting at. The 1.3msec latency spec would seem to be subject to the type of processing block being used.

You grab an analog DI, plug in your bass, send the dry XLR to your DAW interface, track 1, and the 1/4" out to the Anagram, set to a pitch shift down 1 whole step and sent to DAW interface, track 2. Play the open low E string making sure the tone is bright, and played with a pick for max attack transients.
Record the performance with the the dry & processed tracks simultaneously. You can see the waveforms aren't aligned ( the processed latency ) and by how many msec.

I'd love to know what this latency spec is, if an owner could do this. Thank you.
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There are ways to predict pitch faster than at 1/2 wavelength. Read/saw something about that a while ago on the audio developer conference, will have to took it up again as I'm not that deep into that topic.

FWIW: you don't need to fiddle with all the recording and measuring latency with a ruler. There's a really handy tool for that.
 
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Gigged this setup during some fly-dates. Can recommend 😎
 

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#133
eyvindwa said:
Does anyone know if there's a wah pedal in there, to be used with the expression input?
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If the images on the DG page are an indicator of everything in the effects blocks, there doesn't appear to be a dedicated wah. That said, the "Mo**erf**er" is a Moog MF-101, which does a pretty good 'wah' sound with an expression pedal. You can use an expression pedal with the anagram and apply it to any effect parameter. So that would get you there...
 
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#134
TaySte_2000 said:
Can we all take a moment to appreciate out of the box we won’t have to scroll through 57 different Marshall and Mesa modeled amps and someone made something for our little corner of the world 😂
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This was one of my first thoughts. Something made for bass, not guitar and bass. Yeah, at the moment it's a lot of DG sounds, which may or may not be your preference, but that will probably change as the product and user base gets developed.

I don't really use that many effects. Even the Stomp is overkill in that area for me. I have one preset with maybe 3 effects that I regularly use. That's not even close to what a Stomp can do, but it's all in one and fairly inexpensive so that's the way I went.

I tried a Darkglass product a while back - the Infinity - to be an all in one for me. I just didn't get it to sound how I wanted. DG always seem drive/distortion based. I didn't have much luck getting a sound I liked. I wanted to like it. Maybe this would be better, IDK. $1,200 is a lot of coin to leave an platform that is - even though dated - working for me right now.
 
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SteveC said:
This was one of my first thoughts. Something made for bass, not guitar and bass. Yeah, at the moment it's a lot of DG sounds, which may or may not be your preference, but that will probably change as the product and user base gets developed.

I don't really use that many effects. Even the Stomp is overkill in that area for me. I have one preset with maybe 3 effects that I regularly use. That's not even close to what a Stomp can do, but it's all in one and fairly inexpensive so that's the way I went.

I tried a Darkglass product a while back - the Infinity - to be an all in one for me. I just didn't get it to sound how I wanted. DG always seem drive/distortion based. I didn't have much luck getting a sound I liked. I wanted to like it. Maybe this would be better, IDK. $1,200 is a lot of coin to leave an platform that is - even though dated - working for me right now.
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Agreed on the 'dedicated to bassists' sentiment. The one thing I'm curious about is if/how users can share presets beyond explaining their approach in a forum like this. Maybe it has that capability and I'm not understanding, but the thing that makes the source audio stuff so versatile to me is the ability to pull presets that other end-users share. It results in so many more diverse sounds being easy to achieve (and tailor to your own needs). That functionality would open up the market to a lot of players that think of DG strictly in the metal/djent realm. Just imagine a list of presets where people were emulating classic bass pedals and sounds from classic songs/recordings that help non-metal players easily ID familiar drive tones.

To your point on the 'overkill' part...The array of effects on this unit is way more appealing to me. The HX and Boss multi units felt like they had very limited bass-specific drive and filter effects (limited bass options across the board, to be fair). So I didn't have the starting points I wanted for many of my basic tones, and I was trying to bend guitar effects and sims to suit those purposes. Then they would have dozens of delay and modulation effects, where I just needed a handful of useable effects in those areas. Point being, the 'depth' of those units were in areas that felt fringe to me. So I was always fighting to find my starting points, and had tons of options where I didn't really need them. The Anagram seems like it's way more 'my speed' in that sense.
 
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#136
After looking at vids and reading the manual, I really like it! That said…when entering tuner mode, it does not appear to mute the pedal (via stomp button?) Seems odd, for an “all-in-one” floor unit…
 
#139
BrentSimons said:
Hi @IvanBassist
Did you miss your Quad Cortex at all?
I’m looking forward to a comparison video if you have the time! :)
Best wishes
Brent
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I didn’t miss the QC. Everything I needed for the gig was there, but i did have to rethink my preset and which footswitches I use for what.

That required more mental focus during the gigs than anything else 😆
 
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I've been thinking about getting an HX Stomp for a few months. Been toying with the idea of a Kaamos. I made the decision to order this 30 minutes after I knew it existed XD

Ticks every box I wanted/needed to tick.
Expecting I'll need to sell my tuner, cali76, octaver. I have a TonexOne and I'm on the fence about keeping that in my effects loop, will see how the modelling in the Anagram compares to the Tonex captures I'm using - but I expect I'll sell it, as if the modelling is good enough I wont get enough value from just the pedal captures on the Tonex given NAM support on the Anagram.

Really want to keep my DCX Bass in the effects loop if my wife will allow it... but now I'm considering borrowing some gear to record NAM captures of the DCX to see how that compares.

So excited for this product!
 
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