I didn't say anything negative about DG products at all. I think they are fine pedals. Nor did I name drop any alternatives that may be better for what the OP is looking for.
Didn't mean to ruffle any fan boy feathers.
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Darkglass Overdrive Pedal
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I didn't say anything negative about DG products at all. I think they are fine pedals. Nor did I name drop any alternatives that may be better for what the OP is looking for.
Didn't mean to ruffle any fan boy feathers.
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Hey, thanks for considering some my creations!
. It makes sense to try both and then decide, ideally you'd have a nearby store that has them but if not most dealers have pretty awesome return policies.
OK. Ordered both (from Amazon, as no dealers in Wyoming that I can find.) Will report on my preference.
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Yeah man I think I'm going to end up starting out with the VMT after reading this thread. Maybe later try out a b3k if I can afford it. Heck with our first show out of the way I'm taking a break on buying new pedals atm personally lol
For your style of music, the darkglass vintage microtube would be a good choice. I own one myself. I play hard rock and heavy metal and I use it as my smooth overdrive.
I don't feel frequencies are missing from the B3K, but it's strong point is definitely ultra present high-mids, so if you are looking for the "brown note"(notably Zeppelin) I would definitely recommend the VMT over it.
Here I have added bass guitar to a Helio Sequence song, and that upper mid presence lets the bass through the mix nicely without being obtrusive. It doesn't sound too "modern" but at the same time it doesn't have the "John Paul Jones Sludge":
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Here is why I love my B3K, though:
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There's low-mids here, but you probably won't notice them so much because I made the high mids ultra present. I haven't heard many pedals even come close to duplicating this sound. I guess this is probably closer to the "signature B3K tone" but I have always loved it.
I think the metallic bite contrasts nicely with a wall of dark analog-sounding synths. The cut option on the newer version makes it even more versatile, but if you love low-mids over high mid presence, I would definitely recommend the VMT.
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I don't feel frequencies are missing from the B3K, but it's strong point is definitely ultra present high-mids, so if you are looking for the "brown note"(notably Zeppelin) I would definitely recommend the VMT over it.
Here I have added bass guitar to a Helio Sequence song, and that upper mid presence lets the bass through the mix nicely without being obtrusive. It doesn't sound too "modern" but at the same time it doesn't have the "John Paul Jones Sludge":
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Here is why I love my B3K, though:
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There's low-mids here, but you probably won't notice them so much because I made the high mids ultra present. I haven't heard many pedals even come close to duplicating this sound. I guess this is probably closer to the "signature B3K tone" but I have always loved it.
The cut option on the newer version makes it even more versatile, but if you love low-mids over high mid presence, I would definitely recommend the VMT.
Thanks for including the sound bites. I have only heard them through my 1 inch laptop speakers. Will play them again tonight through a better system. I do like the B3K, but have liked the VMT as well. May end up with both.
Don't limit yourself to one or the other. Get both and keep both! I think pedals and different effects add to inspiration. I have lots of effects but am really digging my DG pedals. I split my signal and have the B7K on one path and the Microtubes on the other (along with others). Love that both can give growl without detracting from the clarity and low end...
Going to bump this thread because I have been looking for a good tube preamp/distortion and the BK7 sounds like it may be it.
Can anyone comment as to how the direct out sounds going into a board? We play without a backline, so it has to sound good coming out of the PA. Or at least the same as it does going thru a speaker cabinet set flat.
Can anyone comment as to how the direct out sounds going into a board? We play without a backline, so it has to sound good coming out of the PA. Or at least the same as it does going thru a speaker cabinet set flat.
I had the very same dilemma. I could not decide between the vintage and the B 3 K. I ended up going for the vintage because it has a very throaty sound. It's also very tweakable that you notice more in a band setting then when just playing and practicing by yourself.
I took my vintage out for the first time live last week and it sounded incredible. I will be picking up a b3k as well to accommodate my metal side. But the vintage is exceptionally well built and can handle a huge variety of tones. I highly recommend buying one.
I took my vintage out for the first time live last week and it sounded incredible. I will be picking up a b3k as well to accommodate my metal side. But the vintage is exceptionally well built and can handle a huge variety of tones. I highly recommend buying one.
I plugged in my vintage into my Eden world tour 550 head and used the direct out on it to the board. I got many comments on how good it sounded. I will use the set up again and again when I'm able to use a DI. It also sounds really good cranked through my 4x10 as well.
