Double Bass DB Stand for tall players i.e. long endpin. Ingles modification?

[bobsax]

First let's not get into the whole against the wall or on the floor on it's side.
Often I go to somebody's house and there isn't a good wall and on the floor, especially with the endpin sticking out 12" is not always the safest place. Out of sight out of mind.
I can't seem to get the Ingels to not want to tip back.
At best the front legs raise up about half an inch.
Is there an Ingels website? I'm not finding any help on setting up this stand for a long endpin.
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This site has some pretty good info. I found out the Hercules stand has max endpin length of 8".
I'm wondering one of the lighter stands like the K&M would be stable.
Again , I don't think it's a good idea to use a stand in the middle of the room but I think using a stand off in a corner would be best when that corner is not going to work for the bass alone.

Also with the Ingles I'm wondering if anybody just bends the back rod/neck support forward to keep the bass from leaning back so far?

 

[bobsax]

This is the best I can do but it still want's to tip back at the slightest touch.
It seems like the back support legs are to short.

 

[SVT4001]

My first question/suggestion would be can you lower the endpin when you want to put it in the stand? Prolly a PITA, I know, but I just thought I'd start with that.

That aside- maybe put the stand on a short platform? Something sturdy that would give you the clearance you need- IDK- maybe like a block of some kind under each of the stand's feet?

My next suggestion might be difficult to explain, but I'll try- it also kinda requires modifications to your friends house, so I hope they're cool with it!
Find a ceiling joist and screw in a hook or eyebolt. Then hang a bit of rope from the hook that has a loop in it- and put the top of your scroll into the loop. The rope should be just long enough so the bass stands almost vertically with the endpin touching the floor.

Sorta like a "hangmans noose"- but without the gallows.

Does that make sense at all?

I was at a luthiers shop, and that was one of the ways he would get basses out of the road! I stole the idea and use it at several friends houses- those that will let me put hooks in their ceilings that is!

I hope something I said helps- or gives you a better idea!

Joe

 

[Phil Rowan]

My first question/suggestion would be can you lower the endpin when you want to put it in the stand? Prolly a PITA, I know, but I just thought I'd start with that.

+1. This is probably the most simple solution, and it's much less of a PITA than having to take the bass in to repair damage done by the bass falling off an unstable stand. I'm not even that tall but I always lower my endpin all the way in if my bass is going to be laying sideways on the floor in an area where there's even a slight chance someone or something might run into it.

 

[tstone]

I normally leave the endpin on my Shen 3/4 extended 8-1/2" and store it on a Koenig & Meyer 141 stand. I checked the stand, and the yoke which goes between the C bouts could easily be raised another 5". And you could get another inch or two higher if you didn't completely flatten out the tripod structure at the bass.

 

[bobsax]

Good points guys, thanks I hadn't thought about it but I guess if you're going to lay it on it's side it's not that big a deal to pull in the endpin. What's the rule again about the bridge? Facing the wall?
I do try to use a corner if possible but often there's a picture hanging that the bass will touch.I was thinking that a cheap lightweight stand like the hamilton could be used in that situation where the scroll was leaning in the corner but the sides were not touching the wall or paintings.
Amazon.com: Hamilton Double Bass Stand, Chrome Finish: Musical Instruments
this one seems a lot more expensive for a very similar design.
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Again in the bluegrass world people host jams so you're often going to different houses.

 

[bobsax]

I normally leave the endpin on my Shen 3/4 extended 8-1/2" and store it on a Koenig & Meyer 141 stand. I checked the stand, and the yoke which goes between the C bouts could easily be raised another 5". And you could get another inch or two higher if you didn't completely flatten out the tripod structure at the bass.

So how do you like the K&M?
Can it withstand a little bump without tipping over?

 

[tstone]

So how do you like the K&M?
Can it withstand a little bump without tipping over?

I'm very happy with it, and I live in earthquake country! On the other hand, I don't have any rambunctious kids or big dogs running around the house.

In my case, you have to pull the headstock about a foot to either side before it will tip. It's not as stable as an Ingles or a Hercules, but I feel it's the best portable stand by a long shot, and you mentioned that you sometimes travel with your bass. It makes a remarkably compact package when it's all folded up.

 

[Matt Burri]

My first question/suggestion would be can you lower the endpin when you want to put it in the stand? Prolly a PITA, I know, but I just thought I'd start with that.

Yeah man. Getting my endpin out is a breeze; I figured out that my thumb to my ring finger when I make an L is the perfect endpin height for me. If you use some white out or have some sort of reference it can make it really easy to put your peg in just the right spot really quickly.

 

[bobsax]

I'm very happy with it, and I live in earthquake country! On the other hand, I don't have any rambunctious kids or big dogs running around the house.

In my case, you have to pull the headstock about a foot to either side before it will tip. It's not as stable as an Ingles or a Hercules, but I feel it's the best portable stand by a long shot, and you mentioned that you sometimes travel with your bass. It makes a remarkably compact package when it's all folded up.

Thanks Tstone
You must mean it's not as stable as an Ingles with the endpin pulled in or maybe my Ingles is a dog. I bought it used.

I could have used a stand at last nights session. We were in a living room with no usable corners but lots of nooks where I could have put it out of the way. The best place to put it was on it's side with the neck blocking the back door. Everybody had to step over it to get outside.
It sounds like your K&M would have done the trick and I could have put it up in a nook.

Hey I'm just south of you in Brisbane. Where did you get yours?

 

[tstone]

Hey I'm just south of you in Brisbane. Where did you get yours?

I was fortunate enough to find a clean used one on craigslist. If you're looking for a local source, I think Steve at Steve Swan Guitars in Burlingame usually has them in stock.

 

[bobsax]

Thanks Tstone
I bought my bass from Steve Swan. I'll give him a call.
--bob