Not surprised as this, in many instances, is where the sonic conflicts reside and is frequently exacerbated by guitarists who insist on boosting in the same region. We call it the "125 hz turf wars".
Riis
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DBX 31 band and an SVT classic
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Not surprised as this, in many instances, is where the sonic conflicts reside and is frequently exacerbated by guitarists who insist on boosting in the same region. We call it the "125 hz turf wars".
Riis
Precisely... I had no idea, that there was a name for this bullheadedness
I am lost as far as the 2 pickup volumes on bass... 2 volumes ( gains whatever ) on the svt and the 2 knobs on the dbx eq limiter
That makes SIX knobs.
Can someone educate me here ( even be sarcastic about it, I just want to use the correct terms ) What is the mismatch involving... impedance mismatch, or gain structure or what??
I know when I once played my bass through a powered speaker, it sucked tone wise, meaning I could not get the normal shadings of tone like on a dedicated bass head.
I played with the dbx svt after the gig today, and I am still wondering about the correct levels.
I am lost as far as the 2 pickup volumes on bass... 2 volumes ( gains whatever ) on the svt and the 2 knobs on the dbx eq limiter
That makes SIX knobs.
Can someone educate me here ( even be sarcastic about it, I just want to use the correct terms ) What is the mismatch involving... impedance mismatch, or gain structure or what??
I know when I once played my bass through a powered speaker, it sucked tone wise, meaning I could not get the normal shadings of tone like on a dedicated bass head.
I played with the dbx svt after the gig today, and I am still wondering about the correct levels.
You're confusing the **** outta me. Ignoring the bass, exactly what gear do you have in your rig? Please include make and model # so we can pull up the manuals. In the meantime, I betcha your outboard EQ has a bypass switch...activate it.
Riis
because as often as not, after a bunch of EQing, when you hit that bypass to compare the results with the original sound you realize you're better off without the EQ!
I hear you. I hate to give in to a small Genz Benz 3.0 Shuttle.
It just seemed to be much less overwhelming to the large room. It seemed to quickly nail the sound. Problem is, I only heard ( played it ) very briefly.
I guess there is NOTHING I can do to get that tightness of a 600 Watt SS amp with the svt beast!
I am into paradox**, not insanity, so any Ampeg folks out there who can offer an "argument" to stick with the SVT, please do so.
The other option is getting the original cab, the 8 10 cabinet ( someone said it was, both design for the svt, and was tighter) and stick with the svt.
**Paradox- I don't believe I create paradox, I just am very attuned to it. I often argue two sides of a situation! Thank you
It just seemed to be much less overwhelming to the large room. It seemed to quickly nail the sound. Problem is, I only heard ( played it ) very briefly.
I guess there is NOTHING I can do to get that tightness of a 600 Watt SS amp with the svt beast!
I am into paradox**, not insanity, so any Ampeg folks out there who can offer an "argument" to stick with the SVT, please do so.
The other option is getting the original cab, the 8 10 cabinet ( someone said it was, both design for the svt, and was tighter) and stick with the svt.
**Paradox- I don't believe I create paradox, I just am very attuned to it. I often argue two sides of a situation! Thank you
Beat me to it!
It's also often wise to work with the fewest components possible whilst "repair" attempts are underway. When all else fails, then we start adding peripherals & outboards.
Riis
No dragging, of any kind.. it stays in one environment. I mostly play keyboards professionally.
I just now realized an error I made. When I originally tried ( @ GC ) the svt classic head, the bottom was the behemoth PR 410 HLF, NOT the cab that I bought used, namely the SVT 410 HLF. Does anyone know from experience the differences between the two cabs?
I have SVT 410 HLF.
I can go with the ampeg 8 10s and my svt classic, or I can switch amps, going with the lighter and tighter Shuttle 3.0 paired with the SVT 410 HLF.
Since I don't have to move the cab, if anyone knows the difference in the two 410 ampeg cabs ( I think the pr 410 is discontinued ), please let me know.
As it should. You´re cutting out the mud.
A camera(phone), or pen and paper.
You want EQ and neutral at the same time. You can´t have your cake and eat it too... Time to pick one. Go easy with the outboard EQ...
As it should. You´re cutting out the mud.
Question : "mud" is classified as between what frequencies? ( Leaving very weird room acoustics, out of the reckoning ! This room is not too bad , just LARGE)?
Same question for BOOMINESS.
I have spent my whole life trying to dial in a perfect balance between highs mids and lows. Once in a while, they are all in perfect balance without any effort, but usually not.
I started playing in the late 60's. Back then it was HIGH action, old, taut, fat Labellas that you never changed! aka Mr Jamerson. Much later, Marcus Miller came on the scene and blew my mind by not just having my traditional, if arbitrary, THREE bandwidths to deal with Lows mids highs, but many more
With Marcus, and others now, it seems to be LOW Lows, lows, low mids, mid mids, highs, and sizzle!!
I digressed, but my point is, A BALANCE between those 3 bandwidths is a constant struggle for me. I love those woofy lows that McCartneys Hofner got, I love punchy mids that are in the chest, and highs are an area I know less about, though the wrong kind, or too much high seems unbasslike. Anyway, a constant struggle.. 0_0
: "A camera(phone), or pen and paper". THANK YOU.. I've gotten a little lazy, eh!
You want EQ and neutral at the same time. You can´t have your cake and eat it too... Time to pick one. Go easy with the outboard EQ...
I am heavily into the paradoxical, which is why some people ( usually ) privately think I'm a little loony. Why not start with approx neutrality, and then play just a bit so you can sometimes opt for eg, that swimmy goey McCartney sound, or a low mid sound for funk, or a super deep for Reggae, or a nasal Jaco sound.
I guess I should add more to this puzzle that is my wide ranging taste in music.. I want the ability to have at least 3 or 4 different characters to my sound, depending on the song. Maybe my gear is not the best choice IF versatility is an obvious wish?
Maybe it's time for me to get an 8 10 ampeg or other 810
OR change to the Shuttle 3.0... or?
Thanks for listening.
