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Dead TC Electronics RH450

Hey all,
Has anyone experienced RH450 failure?
Last gig the rig (RH450 into TC210 and TC212 stack) was sounding great, returned to stage after first set break and the amp had blown while on mute during break. Finished gig through front of house (not good).
Have since bought a TC BAM200 as an emergency back up.

Looking around and the Bugera Veyron Tube BV1001T seems to get a good rap here on TB, any thought on how well it will match with the TC cabs?
 
I had an RH fail. As far as I understand, any reset sequence or other steps you can take require the amp to come on, so there really isn't anything that would be advisable for an end user dealing with a dead one to do.

Assuming you're in the US, there are a handful of authorized service providers, and if you happen to be near one, you could have it checked out probably for some bench charge. That'd allow you to make a decision on whether or not it'd be worth the cost. Of course, you could also ship it, but your cost is going up out of the gate.

One of the authorized providers was very close to me, and I had a decent idea of what the likely problem with mine going in. It was well under $200, so I went with the repair. There are repairs that could outstrip the reasonable value of the amp to you, but the only way to know is to have it looked at.

I used TCE RS 210 and 212 cabinets in various combinations of 2 and 3 for a while and went through some heads.

The sound we're looking for and like is a very subjective thing, but for my tastes (which I'd describe myself as generally preferring a clean, smooth sound with some "warmth") one of the sounds I liked the best with the RS cabinets was paired with Ampeg heads. I had a PF500 and SVT7Pro and I liked both in terms of the sound. I had a Bugera Veyron (not sure without checking if it was the T or M), but it wasn't for me. I felt it lacked much of any character, kind of a stark, brittle sound (clean but pretty far from what I define as warm). To be fair, I didn't give it much of a try though...maybe kept it for a week if that, and it wouldn't surprise me for someone else to hear it completely differently.

That said, my experience with the RS cabinets is that they should be pretty middle-of-the-road and play well with most any amp if you like them...there aren't any magical or disastrous pairings that I'm aware of.
 
I had an RH fail. As far as I understand, any reset sequence or other steps you can take require the amp to come on, so there really isn't anything that would be advisable for an end user dealing with a dead one to do.

Assuming you're in the US, there are a handful of authorized service providers, and if you happen to be near one, you could have it checked out probably for some bench charge. That'd allow you to make a decision on whether or not it'd be worth the cost. Of course, you could also ship it, but your cost is going up out of the gate.

One of the authorized providers was very close to me, and I had a decent idea of what the likely problem with mine going in. It was well under $200, so I went with the repair. There are repairs that could outstrip the reasonable value of the amp to you, but the only way to know is to have it looked at.

I used TCE RS 210 and 212 cabinets in various combinations of 2 and 3 for a while and went through some heads.

The sound we're looking for and like is a very subjective thing, but for my tastes (which I'd describe myself as generally preferring a clean, smooth sound with some "warmth") one of the sounds I liked the best with the RS cabinets was paired with Ampeg heads. I had a PF500 and SVT7Pro and I liked both in terms of the sound. I had a Bugera Veyron (not sure without checking if it was the T or M), but it wasn't for me. I felt it lacked much of any character, kind of a stark, brittle sound (clean but pretty far from what I define as warm). To be fair, I didn't give it much of a try though...maybe kept it for a week if that, and it wouldn't surprise me for someone else to hear it completely differently.

That said, my experience with the RS cabinets is that they should be pretty middle-of-the-road and play well with most any amp if you like them...there aren't any magical or disastrous pairings that I'm aware of.
 
Cheers,
Im in Tasmania and have the head in with a repairer who is waiting to get some info from the importer. Interesting on your thoughts with the Bugera as the best thing about the RH450 with both the 212 and 210 paired up is the amazing warmth and bottom end it produces.

Good luck with that repairer. Maybe it's more case by case than I'm aware of, but if they are not specifically a Music Tribe "partner", since they took over TC Electronic, they don't seem to work with non-affiliated companies...which TC Electronic used to.

And I think you should take my or anyone else's online thoughts on the Bugera with a grain of salt. The more discussions that I have and see about audio matters, the more I realize how truly subjective these things are, and even that what's really undefined terminology like "warm" can mean different things to different people.
 
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I own an RH450 with two RS210's and I also had a Bugera Veyron M for a short time. I agree with @drpepper, the Veyron is very brittle and lacks character.

You might like it at home, but for me it did nothing in a band setting. Hopefully you can get your RH450 repaired. Good luck.
 
I suspect a BH550 would be a good choice for you.

I had a BV1001T and let it go to acquire a TC Electronic BH800. The Bugera sounded good to me, but was a bit of a "one and done" sound, while the BH800 has a lot more flexibility. I still have the BH800 and use it paired with 1 or 2 Ampeg SVT210AV cabs as needed, when I'm not running direct to PA.
 
I suspect a BH550 would be a good choice for you.

I had a BV1001T and let it go to acquire a TC Electronic BH800. The Bugera sounded good to me, but was a bit of a "one and done" sound, while the BH800 has a lot more flexibility. I still have the BH800 and use it paired with 1 or 2 Ampeg SVT210AV cabs as needed, when I'm not running direct to PA.

Cheers I have almost settled on the BH550 as the 800 is a little out of my range and hard to get at the moment. I also grabbed a BAM200 as an emergency back up for future failures. Still hoping the old 450 can be repaired.
 
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Cheers I have almost settled on the BH550 as the 800 is a little out of my range and hard to get at the moment. I also grabbed a BAM200 as an emergency back up for future failures. Still hoping the old 450 can be repaired.

I directly compared the RH750 and BH550. You might find something of interest in there, again with the disclaimer that these are subjective matters.

TCE BH550 vs RH750
 
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