Deep Purple influence on Heavy Metal?

[Killed_by_Death]

If I come across any Heavy Metal documentary that lists Deep Purple or Led Zeppelin, I automatically discount it & keep moving.

So, some say D.P. influenced a lot of Heavy Metal bands!~
I'm not hearing it.

Sure, Metallica claims there's some influence, but I'm not hearing it in their music.

 

[jerry]

To me Deep Purple were hard rock but I definitely see them in the lineage of heavy metal. Deep Purple were heavy!

 

[JimK]

...and Avant Garde during their jam/solos (Lord/Blackmore).



Like Blackmore's solo (~4:00)...if I were listening to this back in the day, I woulda wondered how he was pulling this off. A picture is worth a 1000 words.

 

[ElectroVibe]

I see them as influencing the "classical" side of heavy metal. That's a whole genre of metal. Like a 3rd of the pie. Most mainstream heavy metal bands who followed have some of that style. There would be no Yngwie Malmsteen without Ritchie Blackmore, possibly.

 

[JimK]

There would be no Yngwie Malmsteen without Ritchie Blackmore, possibly.

How so? The arrogance?

 

[hrodbert696]

I was never much of a metal person. But one thing that strikes me is the evolution of heavy metal, and how little early metal sounds like its modern version. Early Black Sabbath sounds a lot more like Cream than it sounds like Slayer. Early Judas Priest or Alice Cooper would practically be considered pop bands today.

Bearing that in mind, I DO think those bands were influences on later metal, and yes, would include Zeppelin and Deep Purple. It may not be specific musical ideas. Rather, it's a broader aesthetic. The aggressiveness and heaviness of the music, the raging-testosterone look, the antisocial-swagger personae, were inspired by the earlier hard-rock/heavy-blues bands, and kept looking for ways to take where they had gone and go further.

 

[buldog5151bass]

As discussed, the term "heavy metal" has changed so many times. Steppenwolf was metal, so was Sabbath, so were the 80s hair bands.

 

[Killed_by_Death]

I was never much of a metal person.

I am also mostly flesh & bone

I think Slayer was more derivative of Motörhead than Black Sabbath, which is why Sabbath sounds nothing like Slayer.

This is why I often state that I'm a fan of both genres:
Black Sabbath
Motörhead

because most Heavy Metal is derivative of one of those bands, or both

 

[Wisebass]

So, some say D.P. influenced a lot of Heavy Metal bands!~
I'm not hearing it.

Hi KBD

When I started playing bass (1982), Heavy Metal was huge!

(Salyer was founded around that time '80 or '81 I think?)

One out of three bands that started back then, was playing hard & heavy.

Everybody used to have the same NWOBM albums at home.

Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Saxon…

But as soon as we kids got into playing and writing our own stuff,
we started to buy "older" stuff too. (of course "older" musicians told us about their idols!)

Hendrix, Led Zep and Deep Purple!!!

I still have to meet a Metal guitarist (of my age!) who hasn' t practiced

Hendrix' gimmicks, Page' s modes (mixolydian comes to mind) and

Blackmore' s scales (J.S. Bach! )

Drummers would have Gonzo and Ian Paice next to Nicko Macbrain posters,

behind their set in the rep room.

(drummers = posters of three ugly guys )

As to bassplayers, Steve Harris was the guy who made me pickup the bass!

He certainly had some influence on my playing when I started, but I don 't think you can hear a lot

of that today. Folks rather compare my style with Jack Bruce, JPJ and Roger Glover!


And of course there is that long history of who played in whose band,

because everybody played with everybody else back in the 80s and 90s at one moment

This is why I often state that I'm a fan of both genres:
Black Sabbath
Motörhead

because most Heavy Metal is derivative of one of those bands, or both

Ay! Heavy is loud or louder!

Play hard live well!

greetings

Wise

P.S. I had a Suzie Quatro Poster in the rep room (for obvious reasons )

 

[higain617]

If you were to go way back, I think you'd find that Slayer started out sounding like Venom.

 

[Michedelic]

Drummers would have Gonzo and Ian Paice next to Nicko Macbrain posters,

Gonzo? Did he take lessons from Animal?

 

[consectaneus]

I often hear (by folks more familiar with the genre than me) that the "big three" precursors to Heavy Metal were Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, and Black Sabbath. To my ear, Sabbath is the only one of the three that can truly make that claim. Zeppelin and Deep Purple are definitely heavy, but more firmly rooted in blues. Not that Sabbath isn't as well, but the darker themes, minor half step tonalities and IMO Ozzie's non bluesy vocal style set them apart.

 

[jerry]

I often hear (by folks more familiar with the genre than me) that the "big three" precursors to Heavy Metal were Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, and Black Sabbath. To my ear, Sabbath is the only one of the three that can truly make that claim. Zeppelin and Deep Purple are definitely heavy, but more firmly rooted in blues. Not that Sabbath isn't as well, but the darker themes, minor half step tonalities and IMO Ozzie's non bluesy vocal style set them apart.

Black Sabbath did start out as a blues band though.

 

[10cc]

Metal up your A$$!

 

[Wisebass]

Gonzo? Did he take lessons from Animal?

Bonzo! And he was the Animal' s teacher!!!!!

I was waiting for this!

But I thought, someone would discover my typo earlier!

Folks know nothing about drummers these days…

respect!


Wise(b)ass

 

[Michedelic]

I often hear (by folks more familiar with the genre than me) that the "big three" precursors to Heavy Metal were Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, and Black Sabbath. To my ear, Sabbath is the only one of the three that can truly make that claim. Zeppelin and Deep Purple are definitely heavy, but more firmly rooted in blues. Not that Sabbath isn't as well, but the darker themes, minor half step tonalities and IMO Ozzie's non bluesy vocal style set them apart.

Purps and Zep, yeah, definitely precursors, forerunners, proto-, all of that, but for me, Sabbath was ground zero. Plenty of other stuff leading up to, setting the stage, foreshadowing, etc, etc; unlikely things like the early Kinks with their chord riff as song concept, Yardbirds with flash guitarists and riffs(plus being the incubator for Zeppelin), Blue Cheer with their more sludge than psychedelia, The Who(don't forget, Pete invented the Marshall stack), Cream, and Hendrix with their heavier than before sounds, Stooges and MC5 perhaps, but most important, you can go all the way back to 1958 with the invention of the power chord...

 

[jerry]

but most important, you can go all the way back to 1958 with the invention of the power chord...

All fans of rock history should watch this documentary, you can even see Jeff Beck's stage swagger in Link Wray's playing.

 

[ElectroVibe]

Jimmy Page and Ritchie Blackmore: YES

Tony Iommi: EHH, NOT SO MUCH

 

[Killed_by_Death]

17-Jul-68
Hush is released:



kind of proving my point in the OP

 

[Richland123]

17-Jul-68
Hush is released:



kind of proving my point in the OP

Everybody in the first part of that video has the same dance moves.