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Deglossing a bass body

I already started.

Took plenty of before pictures to document my progress.

Let me just say this much 1 and 1/2 hours into it...this is a lot of work.

I also wanted to show if this "Les Paul Method" was a mess or not - so I got my wife to agree that I could start off in the kitchen (so I can watch the youtube Furthur Sweetwater shows while I work). So far she has not banned me, and she has say so as soon as she sees a single speck of dust.

Full update later tonight with pics of progress so far.

(BTW, the bass is a CV 50's P with the blue paint)
 
Can't wait to see it!!

On a side note, I tried deglossing the finish of my Dillion 54 P knockoff (Chinese made, not sure what the finish is), and I couldn't even produce a scratch with a scotchbrite pad. I've got several "grits" of them and even the roughest didn't make a mark.
 
Ok, the update is earlier than I expected; but after delivering the Flowers and Card and Kisses, I thought it would be business as usual...

Wrong!

I've got 30 minutes to wrap up todays update or else!

Ok, I went to home depot and looked at the B&D mouse and the Ryobi corner cat.

(cat and mouse? LOL!)

The mouse felt much more comfortable in the hand, but otherwise they did pretty much the same thing.

I asked the associate where the different pads were, and he showed me a host of aftermarket sanding paper that would fit either one. I said, "what about the scrubbing pads?" He said, "Scrubbing Pads?"

So, that made my decision. The Ryobi says right on the box that they include "scrubbing pads" - and while I preferred the feel of the B&D, they only showed a picture of the included stuff - so it was a mystery.

Anyway, I bought some "Scotch-Brite" pads on my way home (with the flowers and card) - and busted it out:


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The kit came with 2 scrubbing pads: White is "soft", Red is "hard" - and my Scotch-Brite are just a touch softer than the Red pad - way harder than the White.

Decide to go Scotch-Brite (the pads have no velcro like the sanding paper - they just stick - so made that a very easy decision)

Cut one out to size and slap it on -


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Before we get to photos of actual progress - just want to give you my experience so far:

#1) Circular Rotation. Don't go back and forth. Do little circles and bigger circles but keep going in circles.

#2) Higher Pressure. I spent the first hour and a half doing just the pressure of the machine itself - which is not enough.

#3) Frequent Breaks. When I went to the higher pressure, the machine would get hot. (when I mean higher pressure, you are just slowing the motor a little bit - but putting more drag on for sure) - and the foot of the machine (that looks like a mini iron) starts to heat up.

[I decided that higher pressure was working better, but that this stuff needs to cool down. So, 10 minutes on and 20 minutes off seems good. (the paint might heat up too - so being super careful)]

#4) Do this Under a Light. I mean directly under.

[As you finally break the gloss - you start seeing that you are getting the desired result. By keeping a light reflecting off the surface you can easily see the changes as they occur.]

#5) Rotate the Body.

[It is strange how you think you can apply even pressure, but you can't. Spinning the body 5 to 10 degrees every couple of minutes will open your eyes.]

#6) After you get down beyond the gloss - it seems that oil will show up - like you touched it and now the oil has stained it!

Nope - those are the last traces of gloss - kill 'em!

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ok - some photos:


This is the last photo of my progress today: Showing the pad (same one since I started)


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This one might show a better example of what is coming of this:

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-- questions answered and way more pictures will be available tomorrow --

'gotta run!
 
http://www.3dentourage.com/425/5string-sg-bass2.htm

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I used a dremmel tool, sand paper, scratchy pad, lemon oil and zymol auto polish.

The problem with relicing modern basses is the finish is hard and thick. The dremmel tool will quickly get you down to the wood but the gauge it make is un-natural looking. Sand paper lubricated by lemon oil rubbed in gently can wear an area down in a more natural way. The scratchy pad can be rubbed in gently either dry or with an oil lubricant. Then poliching it with scratch-x and zymol will smooth it out nicely.

It takes a lot of time and effort to get a good looking wear pattern.

Go slow don't be heavy handed.
 
Nice - and you're finished already - LOL! (and that Bassman 20 is Sweet!)

Hey, Thank You fuzzy beard for starting this thread. I'm having a blast doing this and I think the results are going to be pretty amazing.

Thanks! And the Bassman 20 is my pride and joy! Glad your having so much fun. It is somthing i wanted to do very much. But after deciding to do the clear gaurd i just didnt feel the satin body would go well with the gloss of the lexan.
 
The back is done - and I started the sides.

Here is the back before:


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And after today:


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(You can see the bottom of the bass near the strap button, I've only started to knockback that area, so it looks a little sloppy)



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On Monday I will start the front and finish the sides. It will be a lot tougher than doing the back:


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This poly paint is tough as nails. I have actually been using more pressure than I saw anyone advise in the My Les Paul forum. YMMV but I'm very comfortable that I won't be burning through the paint or wearing through the edges.

My wife never kicked me out of the kichen. There is really almost no dust to speak of. I would rub down the body with a damp towel every now and then and take off a ghostly thin layer of dust. I looked in the bag of the sander at the end of the day today and it is empty.

There is zero mess.

Still happy I got into it and more photos next week!

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Micromesh is what I plan to start with on mine. If that doesn't cut it, I'll be hitting the local hardware store for some more aggressive grits.

I'm not going to degloss the SX like I planned. It got here and looks too nice glossy to mess with it. I'm just gonna upgrade some parts and move on.

My Dillion 54 P copy is the new intended victim. I tried once before to dull a part of the back (a spot that wasn't too visible if it looked bad), and I wasn't able to make any noticeable difference. Super hard finish.

I'm gonna try again after I wrap up a few other projects.