So tuners and bridges sound different because of electrical conductivity reasons? You're killin' meCalaverasgrande said:
Black & gold refers to the plating, not the metal under it
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Design for a Bass
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Black & gold refers to the plating, not the metal under it
Thanks, that's quite reasonablenonohmic said:Sorry dude, I'll PM you next time to decide whos gonna put on the stonewash jeans and white sneakers and play Jerry Seinfeld.
yes of course, but gold conducts electricity differently than copper, aluminum etc. If you "plate" a bridge with the right materials it wont conduct at all. I actually have no idea about *** the black plating is. I have read the term "black chrome" in catalogs, but I am skeptical. Again I am not trying to talk about these things as if I KNOW, but more theoretical conjecturing. I would not say categorically that gold and black bridges, all other variables being equal, sound the same. Heck people used to laugh about different brand strings sounding different. "It's in the bass dummy!"Moo said:So tuners and bridges sound different because of electrical conductivity reasons? You're killin' me
Black & gold refers to the plating, not the metal under it
As far as "bridges and tuners" no. The tuners have nothing to do with the electrical circuit which is happening in a guitar. The bridge is usually wired to the output circuit, so differences in the conductivity, capacitance etc will possibly have an effect on the tone. Pickups are a medium impedance and most bass preamps are pretty high impedance (except for older tube ones) so it would be a very minor effect if any. I wouldnt dismiss it, but I wouldnt not buy a bass because of it either. IMHO gold hardware is tacky as all get out. I mean, why not just wear a blue tux with ruffles!
To dig up an even crazier sounding distinction. URB bass bow hair is usually only taken from MALE horses tails. Do male horses sound different?
Ya' know...
I just came across this site from another post [Invalid or Expired Link Removed] and considering the amazingly wild ideas for body design, I find it very inconsiderate to slam a TB'r for a design in progress like some of the posts here. Statements like,
All this guy wanted was constructive criticizm about the size of the horns and the design in general in regards to sound and weight distribution. I don't think that "OMG!, what an ugly POS!", (paraphrased), is a very constructive way to respond on a thread.:scowl: Come on, guys!, (and gals), lets give some help here; that's what this forum's about! It's not meant to be a place to slam others' ideas or preferences. I keep hearing here that a person's bass preference is a very personal thing. Well, let's start respecting that.
Just sounding off. Sorry for the "sermon".
Now back to our regularly scheduled thread.
Oh...Yeah; I think that the lower horn is going to give bruises, but maybe with the shorter upper horn, the balance would be okay. Hard to tell without actually strapping one on. You can always change the strap placement...
Good luck!
I just came across this site from another post [Invalid or Expired Link Removed] and considering the amazingly wild ideas for body design, I find it very inconsiderate to slam a TB'r for a design in progress like some of the posts here. Statements like,
, and
, by Ryan Lunneborg, a MODORATOR, of all things, seem very non-productive and somewhat rude, IMHO. I realize that an opinion is just that, but I don't think that's what the original poster was asking for.
All this guy wanted was constructive criticizm about the size of the horns and the design in general in regards to sound and weight distribution. I don't think that "OMG!, what an ugly POS!", (paraphrased), is a very constructive way to respond on a thread.:scowl: Come on, guys!, (and gals), lets give some help here; that's what this forum's about! It's not meant to be a place to slam others' ideas or preferences. I keep hearing here that a person's bass preference is a very personal thing. Well, let's start respecting that.
Just sounding off. Sorry for the "sermon".
Now back to our regularly scheduled thread.
Oh...Yeah; I think that the lower horn is going to give bruises, but maybe with the shorter upper horn, the balance would be okay. Hard to tell without actually strapping one on. You can always change the strap placement...
Good luck!
gottawalk said:
So, now I am not entitled to my opinions?? If you like the design, fine, that is YOUR opinion. And I have mine.
I also think every Wishbass I have seen is ugly. And I don't like Bongos. I have voiced those opinions as well. My point is, is that we are all entitled to our opinions. Could I have worded mine better?? Maybe. But in the end, I didn't see anything to ad "constructive" criticism to on that design.
I didn't say you can't have an opinion, just that the esthetic value of the design wasn't what the poster was concerned with. I didn't say whether I liked it or not; just that the body style could cause specific problems. No like or dislike. I just don't think that it's very helpful, or even polite to just jump in and say "that's really ugly" and jump out without giving any response to the original question of the thread. Just my opinion. All due respect to you and others in the same opinion, I reread the post and when he said;Ryan Lunneborg said:
I suppose he pretty much opened himself up to like/dislike comments. I just feel that they could be worded a little more diplomatically, especially since he stated that
it just seems rude to dis it that harshly when it's something that he's proud of and likes. Yes, maybe you could have stated it differently;
"Man, that design is really out there! It may be just me, but I don't think that style would sell on the open market!"
'nuff said. Just venting. Sorry to offend.
I so hope you're doing this just to crack me upCalaverasgrande said:
Here's a tip about electricity, if the bridge is "wired" into the circuit so are the tuners as they are connected by wire. 
+1 on the "not jumping on the guy who posted the picture"
about tuners, they may be electrically connected to the circuit, but they are not part of the circuit unless you attach a wire to them and run it back to the output circuit, or if you are tuning and touch the tuner and a badly grounded amp!
about tuners, they may be electrically connected to the circuit, but they are not part of the circuit unless you attach a wire to them and run it back to the output circuit, or if you are tuning and touch the tuner and a badly grounded amp!
If you wire the bridge into the circuit (I assume you meant ground when you said this) and put strings on the bass you have wired the tuners into the circuit (grounded) them in the exact same way as the bridge. Do you have a multimeter? I can tell you how to test this.Calaverasgrande said:
Strings are made of metal and thin, just like wire. Attaching strings to tuners IS attaching them with wires and connecting them to the output circuit (whatever that means) in the same way the bridge is. You're loosing me again, you say you have to run a seperate wire for tuners to be hot, or simply touch them
please, take a basic electronics course before stating such things as truth because other people read it and then start spreading it around. Like the current myth that ground loops means a wire goes in a circle.
You do realize however that there are real LUTHIERS on here that could have probably answered your question a bit more informative, right? That being said, I really dont think there is a problem with the design. I've seen Prince whip and play his similar looking guitar all around stage..........with no injury!!!! Jump over to the Luthiers Corner forum, they may treat you a little bit better....oh, yeah dont get mad, I have gotten the sword plenty of times for my highly publicised hate for anything that looks even remotely close to a Jazz or P bass.
Jump over to the Luthiers Corner forum, they may treat you a little bit better....oh, yeah dont get mad, I have gotten the sword plenty of times for my highly publicised hate for anything that looks even remotely close to a Jazz or P bass.Interesting point! It made me wonder if the wood used might be a big factor in this design! Too dense would mean that it would be amazingly heavy and hard to manage, but too light would be asking for the horns to be "brittle", although the usability factor might be a little more palatable...Lo end PUNCH said:You do realize however that there are real LUTHIERS on here that could have probably answered your question a bit more informative, right? That being said, I really dont think there is a problem with the design. I've seen Prince whip and play his similar looking guitar all around stage..........with no injury!!!!
It would be interesting to find out what woods were used in the guitar that Prince, (now to be named "whatever"), used in that photo.
Lo end PUNCH said:I have gotten the sword plenty of times for my highly publicised hate for anything that looks even remotely close to a Jazz or P bass.
Ha ha ha, I love it!
gottawalk- The easy solution would be to make a 3-piece body with the lighter weighted wood being the wings
re prince's phallic monstrosity, the extra long lower horn curves away towards the neck, not straight down. So it is more manageable. I still can't believe he actually played that live. He must have really hated those record companies.
(he went with "symbol" to sidstep a contract on the name prince)
IMHO Iprefer that an instrument is ergonomic first and that any embellishments to the form are within ergonomic constrains. Suppose thata why I never owned a V. Though if they made a Rhoads style Bass V....
(he went with "symbol" to sidstep a contract on the name prince)
IMHO Iprefer that an instrument is ergonomic first and that any embellishments to the form are within ergonomic constrains. Suppose thata why I never owned a V. Though if they made a Rhoads style Bass V....
I could see that; sort of a neck-through with a Steinberger-ish size body of dense wood for resonance and then add on the "decorative" horn shapes in a little lighter wood for manageability. Gosh. Could work...Lo end PUNCH said:
Plus, if one of them actually DID snap off, it could be replaced without damaging very much of the bass's core sound. hmmmm
gottawalk said:
Thanks...the maker was on the tip of my tongue, and it was driving me crazy.
I don't know much about this stuff, but the horns don't seem much thinner than my Ritter, and that is solid. The design posted is less extreme than Prince's. Too much for me, but I like seeing unique designs.
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Cool pic! It is to laugh! Thanks for the nudge!Marcus Alan said:Invalid Link Removed
He wanted opinions, he got'em.
My opinion?
