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Didnt get the gig...really bummed out...

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I sort of got the feeling that even if you learned the new songs perfectly and sang great... they did not want you ... with comments like " too loud on x set"
I think you acted very professionally and who knows if jaco would get lemmys gig and vice versa. It really doesnt sound like something that would be a good fit for you (just winging it seems frought with problems).

I wish you all the best and yes I think many of us have been in a similar situation and it sucks.


bluewine said:
That is what I was thinking. Most hot bands I know are organized and wing it is not part of their protocol.

Sounds like you were set up to fail. Who can learn 90 songs in 3 weeks?

Why do you think these guys are so great? They seem like jerks to me. And what kind of a band auditions at a gig?

I must have missed something here. Your better off without this opportunity.
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jaywa said:
That's weird.
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Not really. The big gigs pay more, and the regular players are probably wanting a minimum for a gig. The secondary gigs probably pay less, and the regulars won't leave the house for less than $xxx so they get fill-ins for those.

The secondary gig may also be for trying out new material, working in new players, etc. without having to have a formal rehearsal.
 
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bluewine said:
That is what I was thinking. Most hot bands I know are organized and wing it is not part of their protocol.

Sounds like you were set up to fail. Who can learn 90 songs in 3 weeks?

Why do you think these guys are so great? They seem like jerks to me. And what kind of a band auditions at a gig?

I must have missed something here. Your better off without this opportunity.
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Here's the thing.. if I somehow turn them around now, I have the opportunity to A. work a lot more (good cash) B. play places I've always wanted too. C. At this point I think my bridge is burned with my current act, so I may as well make a few bucks..
 
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jaywa said:
Glad you're getting another chance but I'm curious why the change of heart on their part...
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Either I made a good case on the sound issues, and that I really did rock out 35+ songs without rehearsal with them.

Or, he needs a fill-in (its a completely different lineup this time, Keys and Guiar are other guys).

Either way, I may as well play again. I have to try an redeem myself, I am better than I played the other night, even if they don't take me full time.
 
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bassman134 said:
Here's the thing.. if I somehow turn them around now, I have the opportunity to A. work a lot more (good cash) B. play places I've always wanted too. C. At this point I think my bridge is burned with my current act, so I may as well make a few bucks..
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D. You will play at the bigger places, thus improving your resume, gaining more contacts, that even if you get dumped down the line, you still get that from this gig.
 
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jaywa said:
Glad you're getting another chance but I'm curious why the change of heart on their part...
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The optimist in me says they took some time to think about it and decided to work with this guy because of his talent and attitude.

The jaded musician in me says that the band leader is looking for an unpaid fill-in for the gig so he can pocket more at the end of the night.
 
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Good luck with the second opportunity!

If things don't work out this time around, have you considered starting your own band? It sounds like you have chops, experience, vocals, and good attitude... I would come see your band if you were in the neighborhood. :)
 
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jive1 said:
Not really. The big gigs pay more, and the regular players are probably wanting a minimum for a gig. The secondary gigs probably pay less, and the regulars won't leave the house for less than $xxx so they get fill-ins for those.

The secondary gig may also be for trying out new material, working in new players, etc. without having to have a formal rehearsal.
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I guess that makes sense... maybe it's more common than I think but no band that I've ever been aware of rolls that way. To have essentially two bands playing under the same name is unconventional to say the least. How do the band's followers know if they're gonna see the "A-Team" or a bunch of pickups (no offense to the OP) on a given night? Or maybe they don't care.
 
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jnuts1 said:
hot & good don't have to go together. but i would guess they are all great players that don't want to ever rehearse. i know many bands like this & i even get in on the act sometimes. how many times do you really need to practice cocaine or fire?
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+1

If you've been doing this for a number of years, I would be surprised if you didn't know at least a hundred songs, especially the 'standards'. If someone who claimed to be experienced with lots of gigs under their belt wanted to rehearse Sweet Home Alabama, I'd have serious doubts about their experience.

You'd be surprised how many 'pro' bands don't rehearse, don't appear organized behind the scenes, but still somehow put on a good show.

As they say, experience and treachery will defeat youthful enthusiasm every time.
 
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jaywa said:
I guess that makes sense... maybe it's more common than I think but no band that I've ever been aware of rolls that way. To have essentially two bands playing under the same name is unconventional to say the least. How do the band's followers know if they're gonna see the "A-Team" or a bunch of pickups (no offense to the OP) on a given night? Or maybe they don't care.
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Some bands and regions are commodity music, and the people don't care as much about the band as they do the material they perform.

DC is very much that way. Play what they want to hear, and they don't care who plays it as long as they don't totally suck.
 
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jive1 said:
+1

If you've been doing this for a number of years, I would be surprised if you didn't know at least a hundred songs, especially the 'standards'. If someone who claimed to be experienced with lots of gigs under their belt wanted to rehearse Sweet Home Alabama, I'd have serious doubts about their experience.

You'd be surprised how many 'pro' bands don't rehearse, don't appear organized behind the scenes, but still somehow put on a good show.

As they say, experience and treachery will defeat youthful enthusiasm every time.
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Right, and their list is a who's who of over played sing along tunes, with some cool ones thrown in. I SHOULD know a lot of them. The last few bands I've played with we primarily classic rock, and stayed away from the "party" tunes. I just wasn't current on a lot of them and need to refresh myself. A few, I just never got around to playing before.
 
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jive1 said:
Some bands and regions are commodity music, and the people don't care as much about the band as they do the material they perform.

DC is very much that way. Play what they want to hear, and they don't care who plays it as long as they don't totally suck.
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Right, its always the lead singer, and he's the whole show... BTW, the backup guys are fantastic musicians too, I saw them a few weeks ago while I was preparing.
 
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bassman134 said:
Right, and their list is a who's who of over played sing along tunes, with some cool ones thrown in. I SHOULD know a lot of them. The last few bands I've played with we primarily classic rock, and stayed away from the "party" tunes. I just wasn't current on a lot of them and need to refresh myself. A few, I just never got around to playing before.
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For those, I find that just knowing the money chords and what key it's in will get you through most gigs.

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f67/money-chords-common-chord-progressions-pop-music-741250/
 
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