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Didnt get the gig...really bummed out...

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Well if this turns out in the OPs favor (as it's looking like it may), then this whole thread should definitely go into the archives as proof positive of why preparation and professionalism matter... and why you should never give up in the middle of a gig no matter how many things seem to be going against you. Props to the OP and I hope you kill 'em dead this weekend.
 
A bit of a long story, but I’m sure someone can relate. Most of my friends/family/co-workers just don’t get it..
Back story in bits and pieces:

Current band, not booking, drama, two guitar players, Im not completely miserable but not happy

Saw an ad for one of the hottest bands around, playing the best A rooms

Auditioned at a gig, played 7 songs, sang backing harmonies on 3. Did well, invited to fill-in at a gig this past weekend.

Meanwhile current band starts trying to book stuff near term, me and my conscience cannot tell them sure book something for June to tell them the next week, hey I’m in a new band forget it. SO I tell them I’m trying out for a new band, and it looks pretty good for me. 3 folks cool.. drummer pissed as all hell don’t-even-look-at-me. Band has an ad up the next day for new bass player.

Now I am all or nothing….

Fill-in gig parameters: Given a list of 90 songs. Need to know them all because the band does not follow a set list, Singer basically calls out what he thinks is working with the crowd. Not much cross-over with my current band, but 70% I have played at one time or another. I practice my ass off for 3 weeks in preparation, have a book of charts and cheats.

Audition night comes:

Asked what time to show up, told 10pm. Singer messes up, is thinking the wrong gig. Gig starts at 8:30. Luckily my wife is checking out the venue for a menu and see's, all band's start @ 8:30.(its about 6:30, place is 1:15 minutes away) I start frantically trying to get in touch with a band member to confirm, while getting the truck loaded. I find out later that I miss one really important item...ear plugs.

I make it to the venue @ 8:30.. Band is cool, apologize for the mix up. Even still now I'm flustered, rushed and try to get myself settled. Since I was last to setup, my amp is right at my feet. PA speaker 4 feet behind my head. No monitors.

I play the night... 42 songs, genres from Buttercup to Crazy Train.. I have major issues with 4, completely lost like I'm playing the wrong song. One I should have known, I’ve played it before and was fine when I rehearsed it. Two were indicated the wrong key on the set list, so my cheat notes were off. One, I could not locate my chart in time and could not locate it in the book, so I tried watching the keyboard player left hand (which from my vantage point was upside down.. it didn’t work). It’s also a song in a different key than I've played with other bands with.
Sang backing vocals on a bunch of songs where I could, however, the other 3 members sing backups and I didn’t want to step on their parts so I laid out on songs where I could have sung. Of all the songs they could have picked, it seems they pick a bunch ones I was really sketchy on, just bad luck I guess..

Other major problem, by the middle of the 1st set I’m deaf. The drummer is so loud and the PA is blaring in my head, I start to lose sense of pitch, can’t hear mistakes or where they should be. Can’t hear my bass. In between sets I re-adjust my speaker cab tilted away from me on the side, A little better, but my ears are gone by now.

More issues, on occasion my bass cuts out or starts buzzing. Think it’s the output jack, play the backup bass on the second set. Still does it. Change out the cable for the 3rd set, fixed. Tested the cable at home after, there’s a break right around where it hits the floor(and I step on it)

Even with all this I make it through the majority of the night pretty well, playing solidly and tight with breaks/stops/etc… Even a few custom arraigned medleys.

Afterwards I get paid, thank you’s from the guys, hey it sounded great, etc… But I have a feeling. Bummed all weekend, but still think there’s a shot (I’m also the only guy who tried out, apparently auditioning at gigs isn’t well liked).
Get the call on Monday, Hey thanks but we are looking for someone with stronger vocals. I counter with, no one told me that you were looking for someone with super strong vocals, and I didn’t want to step on guys parts. He says they don’t really have parts, they just wing it, and if someone doubles up then so be it. I end up having like a half hour conversation with the guy (leader) about other things during the night, like the sound issues, He said I was too loud in the 2nd and 3rd sets, (but no one said anything to me while we were playing). Also this whole conversation on how no one should need ear plugs that the stage volume should not be that loud (even though the rest of the band uses them, except for him). In the end he says maybe I can come down in a month a play a few songs again at the same place and try and wow them vocally, or maybe you can play a fill-in if we are really stuck, but I think they were a pity offers. Basically he says they are way too busy to work in a new guy, that it needs to be someone who can just step in and play any song out of the entire repertoire without any rehearsal.
I’m crushed… I put so much pressure on myself to score this gig, which positions like this do not come along often, if ever. Not quite sure, but I’m probably done with my current band now too, despite trying to do the right thing. I’ve never blown an audition, and boy it sucks. There were things out of my control that night I’m mad about (sound, etc..), upset with myself that I didn’t perform up to my standards, replayed the night 50 times in my head wondering where it went south….
So either I blew it, or it was just a combination of putting myself in an impossible situation and thinking it would be perfect, or they are just very particular and I didn’t fit in or something.
Morals of the story... Never leave hearing protection behind, don’t tell your band you are leaving them till you have the gig and check all your equipment before a critical audition.

Thanks for listening….


who was it, Rock Kandy ? They screwed me over recently too.
 
39, playing around 20 years... but my point was, its the show they put on which gets them the good gigs, and they are terrific musicians too. The guys I play with now are good players, but not a very "entertaining " bunch.

Well, if you have been doing this for 20 years, you are a lot more tolerant of this particular opportunity than I would have been. But I would have never attempted learning 90 songs in 3 weeks.

At the 2nd invite I would have told them to shove off.

Funny, I had to audition 4 or 5 times before I got in with my band. But it was only a 4-5 song deal.
 
who was it, Rock Kandy ? They screwed me over recently too.

No but I saw their ad too, avoided it.

Honestly, I didn't feel screwed over, I knew the deal going in and thought I did ok, but I did not "kill" it. With the number of stupid things going wrong that night , it just was a disaster on my part. I was never comfortable and settled in. The next show I will be more relaxed, know what I have in store for me and less pressure. basically I am treating it as a fill-in gig, with the potential for future fill-in's. After talking with the leader, I don't see playing the top clubs with them right away and I can see his point of view. If I kill it next Friday, maybe I can earn a spot on his "b" list and work my way up from there.
 
Most "pro" bands around here wouldn't expect a sub to step in knowing 90 songs cold in 6 weeks......unless they strictly played country standards. At a minimum, they would provide charts, or at least have the common courtesy to give the sub the right time.
 
No but I saw their ad too, avoided it.

Honestly, I didn't feel screwed over, I knew the deal going in and thought I did ok, but I did not "kill" it. With the number of stupid things going wrong that night , it just was a disaster on my part. I was never comfortable and settled in. The next show I will be more relaxed, know what I have in store for me and less pressure. basically I am treating it as a fill-in gig, with the potential for future fill-in's. After talking with the leader, I don't see playing the top clubs with them right away and I can see his point of view. If I kill it next Friday, maybe I can earn a spot on his "b" list and work my way up from there.

Does this band have anything on Youtube. I just can't believe that a band that is supose to be so hot treated you in what several us feel was unprofessional?
 
man.. hope this works out for you! sounds like you really put a bunch into it and that's way cool. I did the same kinda thing (auditioning) with a local act that was getting some serious attention few years ago.. worked my butt off, we jammed for about 2 months, did a few "audition" shows, thought i was in..

I come to find out the singer thought i moved around too much, got in his "area", encroached on his "space" onstage. it was a high energy rock band that was all over the place (he broke one of my pedals with his antics)......:eyebrow:

Later i find out they had someone else in mind the whole time. They recorded all the rehearsal/auditions, liked the things i added, and then had this guy come watch all the shows and learn the stuff i played... he got the gig. the singer liked how he didn't move his feet.

anyway.... hope you get the gig! you've worked for it..
 
So either I blew it, or it was just a combination of putting myself in an impossible situation and thinking it would be perfect, or they are just very particular and I didn’t fit in or something.

Yep, live gig auditions are very tough situations. I wouldn't say you blew it, but the potential for things going wrong was just too great, as they often are in that situation. And if they don't see it that way, they have incredibly, and unrealisticly, high standards. Or maybe it is a "fit" thing and in that case you didn't have a chance even if you remembered your earplugs, never missed a note, and filled in with perfect harmonies all night.

Don't beat yourself up over the unknowns. You put yourself in an impossible situation.

Morals of the story... Never leave hearing protection behind, don’t tell your band you are leaving them till you have the gig and check all your equipment before a critical audition.

Thanks for listening….

Yeah, telling your band was not a good idea.

Hey man, live and learn. You don't really think either of these two bands in your story are the last opportunities you'll ever have to play music again, do you?

Hang in there, lick your wounds, drink a beer, and tomorrow is a brand new day. Hindsight is 20/20. Move on with your chin up and a little wiser for the experience.
 
Another +1 to the not telling your band about another audition. That's like when your boss asks if you can work on a project in a month and you say, "I'm not sure, I have an interview somewhere else tomorrow, and if that goes well..."

That said, you're coming at this from a good place, and learning from your mistakes. Next time around will be better.
 
No but I saw their ad too, avoided it.

Honestly, I didn't feel screwed over, I knew the deal going in and thought I did ok, but I did not "kill" it. With the number of stupid things going wrong that night , it just was a disaster on my part. I was never comfortable and settled in. The next show I will be more relaxed, know what I have in store for me and less pressure. basically I am treating it as a fill-in gig, with the potential for future fill-in's. After talking with the leader, I don't see playing the top clubs with them right away and I can see his point of view. If I kill it next Friday, maybe I can earn a spot on his "b" list and work my way up from there.

Rock Kandy? Is this 1990? I would NEVER join a band with a name like that! And this band you are talking about, sounds like a bunch of freaks! Not professionals....I have to agree with what a number of posters are saying here. Run!
 
bassman134 said:
No, and I'm just trying to keep this about the experience, I still have a shot and the cover band community is real small.

Understood, however becareful, something is not right here. As you can see from some of the other post, most busy working bands don't conduct business this way.

Good luck
 
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