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Differences in sound between Sadowsky and Mike Lull?

#41
bmc said:
A bass's neck, sound, weight and balance are key to me. Far more than who's name is on the headstock. I'm too old for that. More interested in buying a player. YMMV
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We were discussing the shape of the headstock, not whos logo is on it. I didn't mean to say that anybody else shouldn't like lulls headstock, just something that I personally don't like the look of.

I mean, why do we choose a certain color of bass? Or a certain body shape? or pickguard? Looks do count to some extent (a different amount for everyone).

Sorry if this is a bit off topic. Somebody send me a lull PJ5 so I can tell you all how it sounds :D
 
#43
ok, let's see how many can tell me which is which...
Sadowsky Tokyo 5 and Mike Lull MV5-
i don't mean this like " i bet you can't tell ! " on the contrary, i think many will get it right, it's just fun... i had a few minutes so i did these.. listen to the bass, not the player.. :D

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i hope you guys appreciate how much i slave over you !! :rolleyes: :p

ok, so which is which???
 
#44
Both sound great! OK nobody look at each others answers before you throw out your own!

I'm going out on a limb to say #1 is the lull, simply becuase it has a little more of the high mid response I associate with a 35" scale, where #2 sounds a little airier and more 34" ish. #1 sounds like it'd have more cut with a band, #1 is a little more polite.

I fully expect to be wrong :D
 
#47
I just recently traded a Roscoe SKB 3005 for a Lull P5 in Lake Placid blue w/ matching headstock from BassPacific, a new Lull dealer. Tom's a great guy! Back to the bass. I love it! I've seen better headstocks but this one is no problem with me. This bass really gives me what my Sadowsky MV5 doesn't. A great offset. This one is passive which I was afraid I would not like but I do! Fit and finish is wonderful! The only problem I found was that the pickguard had raised up in between some of the screws. I called Lull and Mike himself answered! He had to turn off the sander to talk! He said this was something new happening lately caused by the 2 plys of plastic and 1 ply of celluloid and it getting heated up. He called it potato chipping. He said he was getting a new style within the week and would drop me one in the mail, no charge of course. Great customer service! Made me wonder if I had called Fender if one of the head guys would answer. Not many people making a P5 out there that is worth a count. Try one in passive, I do believe you'll like it!
 
#50
Got me stummped AG!

But in the end, they are gonna sound Jazz Bassy and thats all I would want.

The original question,to answer it simply is "pretty damn close to what a Fender sounds like"!! ;) Or should sound like!

These days I'm getting really turned off by trying to identify all the little nuances that seperate basses.

They are both Jazz styled basses built extreamly well. With passive pick-ups and an active pre-amp, they are gonna sound damn close and at the end of the day, through the house rig or your rig (if you have to carry the room), your gonna sound like you. That is if we are comparring like basses from Lull and Sadowsky-ash with maple, pick-ups and pre as stated above for example.
 
#52
MikeBass said:
Got me stummped AG!

But in the end, they are gonna sound Jazz Bassy and thats all I would want.

The original question,to answer it simply is "pretty damn close to what a Fender sounds like"!! ;) Or should sound like!

These days I'm getting really turned off by trying to identify all the little nuances that seperate basses.

They are both Jazz styled basses built extreamly well. With passive pick-ups and an active pre-amp, they are gonna sound damn close and at the end of the day, through the house rig or your rig (if you have to carry the room), your gonna sound like you. That is if we are comparring like basses from Lull and Sadowsky-ash with maple, pick-ups and pre as stated above for example.
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+1000. (but its still fun to guess).
 
#53
I'll listen later tonight Adrian. Cool idea. I'e owned both Lull and Sadowsky basses, but never at the same time so this will be interesting.

I can tell you though that I loved the basses I owned from both of these guys. They are both at the top of their craft and their basses very much reflect that. I honestly couldn't tell you which I liked better. They were both excellent, but had their own personality and mojo to them.

Kinda like choosing between a '69 Hemi Cuda and a '69 Hemi Challenger. Both kick ass, and are based on the same basic idea, but they're a little different.
 
#54
I'm going to guess FingerJ1 is lull and J2 is Sadowsky.

I'm going to guess that J1 for slap is Sadowsky...

If I'm right I'll post my reasons why I thought that, if I am wrong I will hang my head in shame. :D

PM me and tell me if I am right!
 
#55
First, I would choose Slap 1 bass over the Slap 2 bass in a side-by-side. Slap 1 is a bit punchier and a bit more full, not quite as open sounding as Slap 2. I think Slap one has more overall balance and punch in the mids.

The Finger 1 clip sounds fuller and punchier to my ears than Finger 2. I therefore conclude Slap 1 and Finger 1 are in fact, the same bass.

And now for my Guess; Slap 1/Finger 1 are the Lull. Slap 2/Finger2 = Sadowsky.

Why? The Lull that Adrian has on his website has Bartolini J's. I tend to think of Barts as a 'little' darker with a little more punch than what I would expect from the Sadowsky.

As always, I could be, and probably am wrong. Lol Gary

PS: One thing of which I am certain. AG, you are a Bad A** MF bass player! Love the souful grooves Bro. What a sweet pocket you laid down. You Da Man in my book!
 
#57
Jugghaid said:
I'll listen later tonight Adrian. Cool idea. I'e owned both Lull and Sadowsky basses, but never at the same time so this will be interesting.

I can tell you though that I loved the basses I owned from both of these guys. They are both at the top of their craft and their basses very much reflect that. I honestly couldn't tell you which I liked better. They were both excellent, but had their own personality and mojo to them.

Kinda like choosing between a '69 Hemi Cuda and a '69 Hemi Challenger. Both kick ass, and are based on the same basic idea, but they're a little different.
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between themwhy you prefer? :confused:
 
#60
I'm going to say Slap #1= Lull
Slap #2= Sadowsky
Finger #1= Sadowsky
Finger #2= Lull

I personally have owned 2 Lulls and 2 Sadowskys, and while both being extremely great basses, I would lean toward the Lull simply because they're priced a bit more reasonably than the Sadowsky and because they offer the option with a 3-band preamp which at this point in my playing is an absolute must. I use that mid control more than anything else on my preamp, so being without cut, boost, or frequency change is handcuffing to me.
 

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