Both these things in mind, I still tend to prefer digital delays and modulation (except phase), and currently have a digital dirt on my board. Go figure.
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Both these things in mind, I still tend to prefer digital delays and modulation (except phase), and currently have a digital dirt on my board. Go figure.
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I'm believe if it aint broke don't fix it. I use pedals on a pedal board, but that's just how I built my rig.
I've never heard a pedal being called a peddle. We're all learning.
If you adopt someone else's opinion because they seem more knowledgeable or more professional than you, what are you gonna do when you meet another guy who seems even more knowledgeable who disagrees and thinks you had it right the first time?
No matter what you choose there's gonna be someone stand up and tell you that you are doing it all wrong. Just smile and tell them "I know."
Trust in your own senses and do what works for you.
There are occasions too numerous to count and so inevitably to be repeated for which this ^^^ should be made a sticky!
My lunch hour is just about up an I don't have time to read a 44 responses, but in case on one (45 now, one more just chimed in...) mentioned this; your tone is your tone. If you like it, it works for your band mates, and audience, then done. Who cares how you get there. There is a stigma about using digital pedals over analog, but people can pick on just about anything if you let 'em. That being said, you can use a blender pedal like this one:
mosquite blender - Google Search
It will let you put your digital pedal in a loop, which will allow some portion (you decide) of your unaffected bass tone back into the mix. I have a Zoom pedal and use a little blender pedal this way. The principle is the same. I like it because I am a little sensitive to the "plastic" sound of digital pedals. Putting a little original tone back in is a good thing. Makes the tone a little more foundational and solid. I especially like what blending does to compression and octave pedals.
Hope this was worth reading...
This.
And I'm a guy who loves analog dirt for my bass. But.......I also enjoy using things like Steven Slate drums, reamping to use Guitar Rig's speaker cabs on my DI tracks, playing guitar strictly through Guitar Rig, and using VST compression in the mix as well...not to mention vst reverbs/delay/eq/bitcrushers/weird effects/mastering(those are all digital as well)
If I am not mistaken, the old MXR chorus and flanger back in the '80s used analog delay lines. I also built a reverb back then with one of those delay lines.
The clocks for the delay lines used logic circuitry, but the audio path was analog. They tended to have a limited frequency response and were pretty noisy.
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The clocks for the delay lines used logic circuitry, but the audio path was analog. They tended to have a limited frequency response and were pretty noisy.
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This is patently false. I have found, with few exceptions, that my opinions are always better than differing opinions.
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Most people would say (and have said) that digital reverb and delay pedals have been very broadly respected and adopted.
I happen to remember a blind test of modulation pedals on this forum where a digital pedal was more liked than all the vintage and boutique pedals. Shocking for many.
On the digital dirt front I can report that our first generation was a sales disaster. So was gen two and gen three. Gen 4 (Bass OFD) was our first hit. Our gen 5, Aftershock, is a huge success, and used by many picky players on this forum
My point in all of this, and given my clear bias I tried to focus on facts rather than subjective stuff, is that digital has become a very viable option for all effects. This suggests that one should enjoy the journey of exploration without the fear that digital (or analog) is categorically better or worse. More choices is good!
I happen to remember a blind test of modulation pedals on this forum where a digital pedal was more liked than all the vintage and boutique pedals. Shocking for many.
On the digital dirt front I can report that our first generation was a sales disaster. So was gen two and gen three. Gen 4 (Bass OFD) was our first hit. Our gen 5, Aftershock, is a huge success, and used by many picky players on this forum
My point in all of this, and given my clear bias I tried to focus on facts rather than subjective stuff, is that digital has become a very viable option for all effects. This suggests that one should enjoy the journey of exploration without the fear that digital (or analog) is categorically better or worse. More choices is good!
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Usually I recommend people start with a cheap digital multi effect to see if they like effects and specifically which effects they like. Once they have figured this out, then I recommend upgrading to better versions than what are in the cheap digital multi-effect.
Analog v digital isn't as important as cheap vs decent. Somethings like delays and modulation can sound pretty good in some of the cheap digital multis but a dedicated unit will still blow them away.
Analog v digital isn't as important as cheap vs decent. Somethings like delays and modulation can sound pretty good in some of the cheap digital multis but a dedicated unit will still blow them away.
I remember when Radiohead got tired of repairing their Roland RE-201 unit on the road and started taking the Boss RE-20 in lieu of it. I really miss that pedal.
Just to here to point out that all of you who've listed reverb along with chorus, flange, delay or whatever else are being terribly misleading, there's plenty of common examples of both analog and digital delay, chorus, and flange pedals but I think I've only heard of one or two actually analog reverb pedals.
Spaceman? I think spaceman makes one, it's probably three thousand dollars and made out of the same springs in Neil Armstrongs jump seat.
The tech 21 RVB is the closest common thing to analog reverb (and an amazing underrated pedal, imo) but the reverb sound itself is still a digital circuit, while the mix, feedback, tone, mod, and boost are all analog.
Spaceman? I think spaceman makes one, it's probably three thousand dollars and made out of the same springs in Neil Armstrongs jump seat.
The tech 21 RVB is the closest common thing to analog reverb (and an amazing underrated pedal, imo) but the reverb sound itself is still a digital circuit, while the mix, feedback, tone, mod, and boost are all analog.
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Ok just cause I can't resist, @Negative1 i think if you're only using one sound at a time then there's less reason to go analog.
The reasons I have analog pedals (and think the audience can tell the difference) is when you combine different sounds. Like @Alien8 said, loss is an inherent part of all audio conversion.
If you're just converting a clean bass signal, it might not matter that much; clean bass doesn't have a great deal of harmonic content, and a good chunk of what there is comes from the amp anyways. But if you're using pedals in combo, it can get more dicey
Running fuzz into anything is what makes this especially obvious for me. Like, try running a fuzz pedal into a digital delay and then an analog one and it's pretty obvious to me (at least with my rig), that one of them is mixing a delayed sound with my dry signal and one of them is changing the whole signal into something it was not before, something far less lively.
Filters are the other one that this becomes real obvious for, to me, but in modulation sounds I've also found quite noticeable difference in combos.
But if all you want is single sounds, stick with your multi effect!
Do what makes you happy
The reasons I have analog pedals (and think the audience can tell the difference) is when you combine different sounds. Like @Alien8 said, loss is an inherent part of all audio conversion.
If you're just converting a clean bass signal, it might not matter that much; clean bass doesn't have a great deal of harmonic content, and a good chunk of what there is comes from the amp anyways. But if you're using pedals in combo, it can get more dicey
Running fuzz into anything is what makes this especially obvious for me. Like, try running a fuzz pedal into a digital delay and then an analog one and it's pretty obvious to me (at least with my rig), that one of them is mixing a delayed sound with my dry signal and one of them is changing the whole signal into something it was not before, something far less lively.
Filters are the other one that this becomes real obvious for, to me, but in modulation sounds I've also found quite noticeable difference in combos.
But if all you want is single sounds, stick with your multi effect!
Do what makes you happy
Hi guys, I've just made a video comparing analog (Red Witch Empress) and digital (Strymon Mobius) chorus/vibe on bass. I haven't find any videos like that on YT so I decided to make one. 
Thing is though, you're comparing a reasonably high end analogue pedal with quite a high end digital pedal.
They should be relatively similar sound-wise, though function-wise they will differ.
It's not the same as comparing an affordable multi-fx unit to that of a single pedal (such as either of the above).
Even the so called "analogue" pedals (i.e. the "bucket brigade") use an integrated circuit chip, not an actual circuit made up of individual electronic components. [/rant]
They should be relatively similar sound-wise, though function-wise they will differ.
It's not the same as comparing an affordable multi-fx unit to that of a single pedal (such as either of the above).
Even the so called "analogue" pedals (i.e. the "bucket brigade") use an integrated circuit chip, not an actual circuit made up of individual electronic components. [/rant]
