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Dingwall Question

Christcr

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Feb 8, 2015
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I have wanted a Dingwall off and on for years. The thing that holds me back is playability for a "small" person. Well, I'm not tiny, but I don't have long arms. I love Spector basses, but I can't play them comfortably because the upper horn is just too far back and it makes the left hand reach very tiring for me (and that's on a 35 inch scale). I see the design on the Dingwalls have a much longer upper horn, BUT then again, it is a 37 inch scale. I've heard lots of different opinions on the Dingwalls from "not much different" to "really long left hand reach." So, I thought I'd pose the question once again...

So here is the question: I'm strongly considering a Combustion Nashville Edition--in fact I'm about ready to just buy it now and take a chance. For those of you who play these, how long is the left hand reach?

I don't want to feel like I'm reaching for the moon when I want to get a note on the first fret. My arm just gets too tired too quickly.
 
I would recommend posting this question here (Dingwall Owners Club) for the best answers. Dingwall does a great job of building the scale length right to the end of the body, and by doing that the reach to first fret doesn't feel as long as you think. Also, the first fret on the B string is technically around 2 inches behind the nut. The custom models come with a dunlop flush mount reach reducing strap pin option that is said to reduce reach length by about an inch. Not sure if the combustions have this, but could easily be added by a luthier or yourself if you so please. I tend to have my strap a little longer than I would on another bass, and this helps angle the headstock up and a little closer to my body. It feels like less of a reach to first fret on my dingwall than my warwick corvette for what it's worth.
 
I would recommend posting this question here (Dingwall Owners Club) for the best answers. Dingwall does a great job of building the scale length right to the end of the body, and by doing that the reach to first fret doesn't feel as long as you think. Also, the first fret on the B string is technically around 2 inches behind the nut. The custom models come with a dunlop flush mount reach reducing strap pin option that is said to reduce reach length by about an inch. Not sure if the combustions have this, but could easily be added by a luthier or yourself if you so please. I tend to have my strap a little longer than I would on another bass, and this helps angle the headstock up and a little closer to my body. It feels like less of a reach to first fret on my dingwall than my warwick corvette for what it's worth.

Your comment about the Warwick is reassuring. I used to have a couple 5-string Thumb basses and I recall that was my big gripe (along with the neck dive)--that long left hand reach.
 
The Dingwalls bridge is way out towards the bottom of the bass. So that 37” is spread more evenly than on other longscale basses.

The reach to the first fret is longer on my 35” Cirrus than on my AB-1. And the body is more contoured and comfortable.

If the Dingwall is still too far of a reach, the “reach reducing” straplock can be installed on the back. This moves the bass even further to your right.

If anything, I find myself pushing the Dingwall to the left to get a better shot at the highest frets.
 
I’m 5’8” and play Dingwalls with the reach extender mostly and it’s not a problem. There is more space between frets but just don’t be afraid to move your thumb on your fretting hand. Let it slide and for me, playing the 37” scale was not much of an issue. There is a video on YouTube about installing the extra strap lock bit I can’t find it right now. I’ll see if I can find it and will update this post.

And just like that, I found it:

 
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I’m 5’8” and play Dingwalls with the reach extender mostly and it’s not a problem. There is more space between frets but just don’t be afraid to move your thumb on your fretting hand. Let it slide and for me, playing the 37” scale was not much of an issue. There is a video on YouTube about installing the extra strap lock bit I can’t find it right now. I’ll see if I can find it and will update this post.

And just like that, I found it:



That video came up on a search I did yesterday. Looks like a good solution if reach is a problem. I wish I'd have known about this idea a few years back when my Spector 5-strng bass was driving me nuts with that long reach.
 
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The 37” stretch the lower notes further apart, and it’s very challenging.

If you love the tone (high definition low B, piano like tones), and is committed to perfecting your skills on 37-34” multiscale basses, then definitely go for it.

While I had the NG3, I had 4 other 34” basses (1 fretless), so I gave up.
 
Well, I got the bass yesterday. And all I can say is "wow!" Great looking, sounding, and playing bass. Setup was perfect--I don't know how long it has been since I bought a new bass that didn't need some sort of adjustment or tweak. Intonation was dead on--I don't know if I've ever had a new bass that I didn't need to adjust the intonation at least a little.

I'm sort of shocked that pretty much all of my expectations about what this bass would be like were totally wrong. I've had hundreds of basses over the years (no, I'm not exaggerating, ask my bank account). I've worked on basses and guitars most of my life. So I generally know pretty much what to expect when I buy a bass or guitar just by the design and specs. Not the case with this Dingwall. I will say, though, that I've never played a fan fret bass until this one.

1) Related to my question on this thread. Wrong! I was expecting the left hand reach to be unmanageable with that 37 inch scale. I've been playing 34 and 30 inch basses the past few years (mostly 30 inch). I've had several 35 inch 5-strings that were nearly unplayable for me because of the left hand reach. So... I was really worried about this Dingwall and expecting that I'd probably be sending it back because I couldn't play it. Not the case at all. Obviously it's more of a reach than my short scale basses, but not really much more than a 34 inch Fender, if any at all. This seems to be due to the way the bass hangs on a strap. The way a Spector hangs on the strap puts the headstock about a mile away (same with Warwick), but this Dingwall puts it about where a Fender J or P is. Maybe just slightly more, but not much. I have ZERO problem with the reach on this bass.

2) I was expecting a huge learning curve and adjustment with the fan fret multiscale thing. Surprisingly, I barely even noticed it! Felt pretty routine. I do notice it a bit on the upper frets above about 15. But I don't spend much time up there anyway. On the lower frets, it's kinda just business as usual with slight spread of the fingers due to the larger fret spacing--by the way, I love the very small frets! In fact, adjusting was such a non-event that I spent about five minutes messing with it when I first got it and promptly took it to a recording session. Nothing hard to play, but I had no problems at all. And it sounded great.

3) I was also expecting that I would immediately be putting really light gauge strings on it, especially with that long scale. Honestly, the stock strings feel fine. They are a little stiffer than I like them, but nothing worth worrying about. That's sort of counter-intuitive for me. I absolutely HATE heavy, stiff strings. It has been my experience that the longer the scale, the lighter gauge string I use. I use 40 - 100 on both my short and standard scale basses (I've used 35 - 95 a lot in the past as well on the standard scale basses). But the heavier strings seem to be no big deal on the Dingwall for me. I'll probably put slightly lighter strings when these die and I change them, but nothing to worry about.

4) I assumed the size of the bass would be unwieldy in general. Again... I play mostly 30 inch scale these days. But, the Dingwall is no more unwieldy than the typical Fender P or J. Feels great strapped on, very playable.

Also, the preamp is killer. It sounds fabulous both passive and active. I love that the passive tone control works in both passive and active modes. The pickup switching is great (and I guess exclusive to this model). I could go on gushing about this purple monster, but you get the picture. This is absolutely the best 5-string I've ever had, hands down--playing and sounding and looking. I've had maybe twenty or so 5-strings over the years. I've always far preferred 4-strings because, I guess, I've never really had a 5-string that I connected with (Zons, Warwicks, pre-Gibson Tobias, etc, etc). But, seriously, I could just totally switch over to this bass right now and not have a problem with it. Of course... I won't because I have bad GAS. Already thinking about a D-Roc. :bored:

I have a 30 inch scale S Martyn Blaze 5-string bass. And it sounds very nice. But... the open low B just cannot compete with the Dingwall low B. Not that the Martyn sounds bad, but the 37 inch scale on the Dingwall is just so clear and punchy.

Here it is. It's dark in the photo, but in the light it's a really vibrant, pretty transparent purple. I'm a sucker for purple basses.

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