DIY Budget Cab! How Bad Could It Be?

[agedhorse]

Just a few grains of rice works fine.

 

[alaskaleftybass]

I like rice. Fried rice. Spanish rice. Wife and I just had rice pudding.

 

[CoffeeLove]

Getting close. Nearly perfect when it comes to immitating the volume, port dimensions/depth, and bracing in relation to the D410XLT (1/2 of it). We will see if turning it into a vertical cab (ports on the side) with the tweeter up top causes any problems. Speakers dropped in just to see what it will look like, still have carpet and wiring to finish. It has been fun!

 

[Blues Bass 2]

That should work great . The Eden 10s have a great midrange and still go low in their cabinets . Also they get loud . I had a pair or 210 XLts about ten years ago and at one small bar gig I was using one and it sounded like a 410 to me volume wise . I pushed it a little too hard towards the end of the night on Hendrix Red House Blues and got a nasty speaker breakup on the turnaround on a drop D but that cab amazed me and my bandmates . Yours should sound about the same , you should love it ! Just be careful going below E , it will work real well but it's not a 410 .

 

[bobcruz]

I'm seeing some odd markings on the woofer mounted on the right in the second picture....over-excursion damage?

 

[charlie monroe]

I'm seeing some odd markings on the woofer mounted on the right in the second picture....over-excursion damage?

 

[CoffeeLove]

I'm seeing some odd markings on the woofer mounted on the right in the second picture....over-excursion damage?

Not sure. The light color you see looks more like some sort of smooth/shiny film over the paper (off white color), but who knows. When I first got the D410 the two speakers you see sounded great at moderate output, but not tested at full output. I will listen carefully when testing the speaker.

I also have two really nice Eminence 10's that I could put in the cab (also got those free), or build another cab to meet their specs. The wood only cost about $40. Really had a good time building the cab. It is all good either way.

 

[Omega Monkey]

Somebody reglued the dustcap, probably with elmers or something like that.

Anyway, too late now, but going with basically a copy of the original cab is probably wise. You could have erred on the side of slightly increasing the volume and slightly lowering the tuning with good results. The trade off with that is that you lose some power handling down below a certain point (like in the graph that rick james posted) In my playing around with winISD, that seems inherent once you get the volume big enough and tuning low enough to get rid of the obnoxious low mid peak many "bass" cabs have. If you're not trying to pound the cab with as many watts as possible, this is probably not a big deal. Personally, I like that "dropped down a well" depth of bass that seems more likely to come from a larger, lower tuned cab. If that takes away too much power handling, you just get more cab to hit the volume goals you want. Or back off the tuning to the highest acceptable point.

I don't know what you're using for a tweeter and crossover, hopefully it will work out. I probably would have grabbed a nice off the shelf tweeter and crossover/jack plate designed for MI/PA use, crossed over maybe around 3.5-5k. Anyway, looks pretty good so far, hopefully it works out well and the dustcap is not an indication of a dead speaker.

 

[CoffeeLove]

You could have erred on the side of slightly increasing the volume and slightly lowering the tuning with good results. Anyway, looks pretty good so far, hopefully it works out well and the dustcap is not an indication of a dead speaker.

Funny you mention the volume. I remeasured the interior and discovered the cab is 1/2 cubic foot greater in volume than I thought (more than original cab cut in half). Forgot to take in account 5/8 plywood vs 3/4 and did not include side of cab piece (duh). I could add another port if the extra volume poses a problem. Also, I tested both speakers before removing from original cab, and they seemed to work perfectly (at moderate output). This is only going to be a practice cab, so no big deal.

 

[BadExample]

I'm seeing some odd markings on the woofer mounted on the right in the second picture....over-excursion damage?

Looks to me like someone glued on a new dust cap?

Less glue would have been nice, but if it bothers you Coffee, maybe just a light application of black permanent marker will help it hide.

Looks to me like you are doing some good work there, and learning and having fun. I dig it. Kudos to you.

 

[BadExample]

Somebody reglued the dustcap, probably with elmers or something like that.

haha I should read first, post later

 

[popcat]

Hint: When using a black Sharpie to hide scratches or whatever, after it dries put a little spit on your index finger and rub it in to take away the glean -- let dry accordingly.

 

[agedhorse]

Try it as is, the additional internal volume shouldn't hurt, even with the existing tuning.

 

[CoffeeLove]

Looks to me like you are doing some good work there, and learning and having fun. I dig it. Kudos to you.

Thanks BadE, really a blast.

OmegaMonkey, the teeeter is a PA Audio PHT406 which came out of a Mesa cab, have had it for a few years now (tested, fully functional). From what I have read, they are commonly used in Mesa, Epifani, and GK cabs and should do the trick for now. This cab will be a true "Frankenstein" with lots of parts from different cabs.

 

[CoffeeLove]

Getting even closer, it is going great!

 

[Downunderwonder]

Ten years from now some bassist is going to come up to you on stage very confused by your oddball Eden cab.

 

[CoffeeLove]

Well, here is the final product minus grill and exterior handles. Guessing it is around 45-50lbs. Have not tested it yet, but hopefully tomorrow.