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DIY Lightweight Composite Cab Build
- Thread starter zac2944
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yeah, thats sobering. I'm def not gonna try it.
Kudos to you though, enjoy the cab! I'm glad it turned out well
Kudos to you though, enjoy the cab! I'm glad it turned out well
Glaszac Cabs.
nah, maybe not.
Your thread gets my vote for #1 in the amp forum for this year.
(Kjung appreciation thread gets #2 imo)
Thoughts for the "next" cab. A single driver of larger size will probably result in less mass. Also, leaving off the glue and rat fur and keeping her "in the white", as she was meant to be, will save you some mass ! And the grill.
You seem like an i and t dotted and crossed kind of guy , so I am sure you thought of these.
Again, thanks for sharing your efforts and build.
nah, maybe not.
Your thread gets my vote for #1 in the amp forum for this year.
(Kjung appreciation thread gets #2 imo)
Thoughts for the "next" cab. A single driver of larger size will probably result in less mass. Also, leaving off the glue and rat fur and keeping her "in the white", as she was meant to be, will save you some mass ! And the grill.
You seem like an i and t dotted and crossed kind of guy , so I am sure you thought of these.
Again, thanks for sharing your efforts and build.
That's my favorite so far, but without the "?". Keep'em coming and I'll post some logo designs.
Zac, there is a real potential market for these, including guys like me who would appreciate carrying less weight and would be willing to pay for that.
The build costs are high, though - it looks hard to break even on it with that costs analysis, unless you charge a pretty fair whack.
If you can perfect the process and and get a great sound out of them, the market is there.
I'd buy one. Or two.
Pete
The build costs are high, though - it looks hard to break even on it with that costs analysis, unless you charge a pretty fair whack.
If you can perfect the process and and get a great sound out of them, the market is there.
I'd buy one. Or two.
Pete
I look at it like this. How much does Modulus or Zon charge for a new bass ($4.5k list)? How's that compare to a Fender($1.5k list)? They charge 2-3 times the price of a Fender! Any why do they do this? Expensive materials and even more expensive labor. You get what you pay for, but only you can decide if it is worth it. If I can cut the weight of your cab by 35%-50%, would you pay double?
Given my current situation (wife in school full time) I can't afford to quit my day job and rock like Jorg Schroeder, but it might be in the future. In the meantime I'd like to keep building and developing. If I can build a few for some TBers to help with the cost of development that would be great. I enjoy it. I'm an engineer by trade and a geek at heart, but I can't go broke doing it.
edit: I have no idea what Jorg does for a day job, but I still think he rocks!
hey, stupid question
if your cab works are you going to build 4x10 and up? im def interested depending on cost.
if your cab works are you going to build 4x10 and up? im def interested depending on cost.
I agree with the Fender/Modulus comparison.
I'd be willing to commission a few of these from you, depending on what it actually sounds like and what those frequency/SPL charts you're going to do look like. I suspect many others would too.
This is a pretty great forum for you to get what could eventually be a fledgling business off the ground. Amen to not going broke whilst you're getting there!
Pete
If I do any builds for TBers they will be built to order. I don't see any problems with a 410. I calculated the weight of a composite 410 to 36-44lbs depending on the configuration.
I like the name "zaclite" but I think you could try a different font/color scheme. I think it looks kind of home depot/nascar looking. IMO.
is the " TB" for talkbass?
is the " TB" for talkbass?
I like the name "zaclite" but I think you could try a different font/color scheme. I think it looks kind of home depot/nascar looking. IMO.
is the " TB" for talkbass?
Nice. That's what I was going for! All I could think of was race cars and the "Made In The USA" logo you sometimes see on retail products.
What? Don't you like America? If you're not with us.....
Hmmm so lets say all that cost and labour comes up to 1,300, that is already more then twice the price of an Epifani 210! and thats not including your profit.
You could maybe buy products in mass, to save.
If you get multiple orders at once maybe do them at once (2,3) to save time and therefore have less of a labour charge.
still these would be at least 1400$ cabs, for a 210, and what if they do not sound as good as a normal ply wood cab. I mean if they sounded just as good then thats one thing but if not then all the buyer is doing is paying more for something that does not sound stellar albeit saving weight.
In my mind its not worth it if they don't sound as good, i could see the market for it if they sound as good as any other cab though.
Its in the eye of the customer though you may have some here on tb willing to make the cost and sound sacrifice, I know a lot of tbers have more then enough $$.
I hope they sound good.
You could maybe buy products in mass, to save.
If you get multiple orders at once maybe do them at once (2,3) to save time and therefore have less of a labour charge.
still these would be at least 1400$ cabs, for a 210, and what if they do not sound as good as a normal ply wood cab. I mean if they sounded just as good then thats one thing but if not then all the buyer is doing is paying more for something that does not sound stellar albeit saving weight.
In my mind its not worth it if they don't sound as good, i could see the market for it if they sound as good as any other cab though.
Its in the eye of the customer though you may have some here on tb willing to make the cost and sound sacrifice, I know a lot of tbers have more then enough $$.
I hope they sound good.
