Do speakers have headroom?

[LowActionHero]

Amps that power the cabs, i believe, is what does or doesn't have the headroom. IE: Having more wattage than you need

Some speakers have more ohms than I need.

Wait, what were we talking about?

 

[BadExample]

I'm stuck on this: (example) a speaker that can handle 1,000 watts is being driven by a 100 watt amplifier. The speaker doesn't have headroom because there is no SYSTEM capacity to drive it to 1,000 watts. It's not headroom because it's not there. Conversely, if you are only utilizing 10 watts of the 100 watt amplifier that IS headroom because greater system capacity exists. Headroom is capacity that is present but not being used, not capacity you coud have if you had other equipment in the system.

My eyes glazed over before I read the entire thread. Not from what you or anyone else said, just half awake and on my stinkin dumb phone.

Keyword in your wiki quote is system. Less so with a combo, but in my view anyone buying gear and connecting it is designing and building a modular system. The system is bass or even your fingers to the cab. Maybe you could include the room and target ears.

My take on the example above is if you dime the knobs on the amp, the amp has no overhead, but the cab does. As you indicated, much of the cabs "overhead" may not do much for you. Overhead quoted to not put words in your mouth.

IMO with all the knobs dimed, your 100 watt amp is probably doing at least 200 watts at the output. So in this case you are using the cabs overhead, but the dimed knobs become the norm and hundreds of watts of the cabs 1000 is no longer overhead. Now you have maybe 750 watts of overhead for the cab, but 0 as a system. Add overdrive, distortion and compression to sound louder and chew up more cab overhead. Join a folk group wanting clean bass and you might find you need an amp and cab with overhead.

For simplicity sake, say a watt is a watt is a watt and the entire system doesn't care about the fine details of frequency (including our ears poor LF perception) and ignore power compression and the like. Keeping this a simple overhead post, disregarding the gory details of reality.

So you sell the pedals and get a 1000 watt amp and run it at a maximum of half power including any gain and eq at the preamp. Now the system has overhead, right? If yes, then with the cab as part of the system it must also have overhead.

I'll shut up now.

 

[beans-on-toast]

Some speakers have more ohms than I need.

Wait, what were we talking about?

Ohms are what you chant when you meditate before connecting your cab to an amp. You want to get the number of ohms right, the chant helps you remember. If all else fails, the guru usually places a label on both the amp and cab that tells you how many ohms are required to reach nirvana.

The space in your head, or headroom, has to be clean. Clutter leads to confusion and loss of headroom, you don't want to get the number of ohms wrong.

 

[BadExample]

Ohms are what you chant when you meditate before connecting your cab to an amp. You want to get the number of ohms right, the chant helps you remember. If all else fails, the guru usually places a label on both the amp and cab that tells you how many ohms are required to reach nirvana.

The space in your head, or headroom, has to be clean. Clutter leads to confusion and loss of headroom, you don't want to get the number of ohms wrong.

Of course, more complex chanting is required for more complex systems, often leading to a headache.

 

[agedhorse]

Of course, more complex chanting is required for more complex systems, often leading to a headache.

We did a theatrical segment on horses that was a spoof of another segment within MP& the Holy G, what a clever movie

 

[Chris 'Wighat' Jordan]

We did a theatrical segment on horses that was a spoof of another segment within MP& the Holy G, what a clever movie

Oh, yeah Andy, you're a horse guy, right? My family raised, trained and showed Saddlebreds (saddleseat equitation, 5-gaited pleasure, pleasure driving, etc) and Arabians (English pleasure, western pleasure) until my sister, the star equestrian, was too old to compete. What's your horse thang again?

I figure I can go as far OT as I want in my own thread

 

[BadExample]

Arabians

Aren't those the pretty small, but really strong little fellas? If it's what I'm thinking of, they're common in the Philippines. Well, common as horses go. I rode one up the side of an active volcano, the smallest known in the world.

 

[Chris 'Wighat' Jordan]

Aren't those the pretty small, but really strong little fellas? If it's what I'm thinking of, they're common in the Philippines. Well, common as horses go. I rode one up the side of an active volcano, the smallest known in the world.

Arabians are not large and their most notable feature is a dished face.

 

[agedhorse]

Oh, yeah Andy, you're a horse guy, right? My family raised, trained and showed Saddlebreds (saddleseat equitation, 5-gaited pleasure, pleasure driving, etc) and Arabians (English pleasure, western pleasure) until my sister, the star equestrian, was too old to compete. What's your horse thang again?

I figure I can go as far OT as I want in my own thread

Started out in the sports of cutting then team penning but for the last 20+ years I have been part of an equine theatrical entertainment group that does exhibition and entertainment shows (to music). In July, we are contracted for about 50 shows in 18 days, it's really no difference at all than touring rock & roll (which I did providing PA, off and on since the early 1980's). Within the group, there are a few of us who will do just about anything horseback, so we tend to do the more outrageous segments like jousting, or chariots, or pirate sword and gun fights, military tributes, and sometimes we just roll with it and put something together as needed, and since I have always trained horses, mine have learned how to learn and figure out what's needed to "get 'er done". They have all qualified through the law enforcement program as well, because they may be out in the middle of the public, on government property, so the qualification is part of doing it right.

I have Friesians/Andalusians, plus a wild caught Mustang that I trained that will be part of the National Day of the Cowboy show and maybe a "Man from Snowy River" segment this year.

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[Deleted member 165050]

I have Friesians/Andalusians, plus a wild caught Mustang that I trained that will be part of the National Day of the Cowboy show and maybe a "Man from Snowy River" segment this year.

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Wild! I used to keep a Danish Oldenberg plus the foal I bred from her but I was a mediocre rider at best, didn't stop me competing and having numerous public disasters though 10 years since I've ridden now though. Always fancied jousting or civil war re-enactment.

 

[agedhorse]

Wild! I used to keep a Danish Oldenberg plus the foal I bred from her but I was a mediocre rider at best, didn't stop me competing and having numerous public disasters though 10 years since I've ridden now though. Always fancied jousting or civil war re-enactment.

I avoid public disasters at all cost, they seem to hurt worse than private disasters, right?

Actually, my (late) riding coach, who was the world trick riding champion in 1951 and 1960 (?), always said that training, preparation and confidence were your best defense against disaster and injury.

 

[BadExample]

Wild! I used to keep a Danish Oldenberg plus the foal I bred from her but I was a mediocre rider at best, didn't stop me competing and having numerous public disasters though 10 years since I've ridden now though. Always fancied jousting or civil war re-enactment.

Being 1/4 dane, I like to remind people that we're pretty much all a little danish now, thanks to their ruthless vikings and pirates

I rode a lot when I was going to school at the Naval Air base near Memphis. Very nice riding horses and awesome trails. Ironically, since then I've only ridden in the Philippines. I never thought about if I was good or not. Never harmed any animals or myself, so at least not too bad I guess.

 

[Deleted member 165050]

I avoid public disasters at all cost, they seem to hurt worse than private disasters, right?

For sure... nothing like a public disaster for knocking the ego out of you

 

[BadExample]

Both have pro's and con's. As usual, there are compromises. If you die from it, in public you have the opportunity to take others with you. In private, even if you die in a most awkward, embarrassing or incriminating position, you'll probably never know it.

Note to GOF's, especially @Ken Morgan this post has absolutely nothing to do with sheep.

 

[agedhorse]

Being 1/4 dane, I like to remind people that we're pretty much all a little danish now, thanks to their ruthless vikings and pirates

I rode a lot when I was going to school at the Naval Air base near Memphis. Very nice riding horses and awesome trails. Ironically, since then I've only ridden in the Philippines. I never thought about if I was good or not. Never harmed any animals or myself, so at least not too bad I guess.

Indeed, if you follow the evolution of horse breeds, you follow the victors in war all over the world.

 

[Chris 'Wighat' Jordan]

I avoid public disasters at all cost, they seem to hurt worse than private disasters, right?

Actually, my (late) riding coach, who was the world trick riding champion in 1951 and 1960 (?), always said that training, preparation and confidence were your best defense against disaster and injury.

One of our Arabians (Tsu Kiba) was the first born get of "The Black Stallion" (whose name was Cass Ole). She was trained by the amazing Walter Chapman who was Cass Ole's original trainer and our trainer for a while. She could count, bow, whinny, kneel, sit, crouch, side-pass, rear, answer 'yes' or 'no' and a bunch of other stuff I can't remember. All with invisible cues.

 

[StatesideRambler]

She could count, bow, whinny, kneel, sit, crouch, side-pass, rear, answer 'yes' or 'no' and a bunch of other stuff I can't remember. All with invisible cues.

As a young-un I got to see Arthur Godfrey with Goldie and Roy Rogers with Trigger do just that in person. Both were musical (the people, not the horses ... I think) and that nudged me in the direction of performing. I shoulda stayed with it more than I did.

 

[mexicanyella]

We have 3.5 "rescued" horses (old thoroughbred, what we think might be a thoroughbred/quarter horse mix, what we think might be a Morgan + something, and a miniature horse) that are grazing their way through retirement on our property. I don't ride, but I can feed horses, pick stalls and drive the manure spreader like a mad bastard. I call them into the barn by clapping loudly, because the sound seems to carry, or riding out into the pasture on my Honda 50 mini-trail and sort of rounding them up in slow motion.

My wife likes to ride when she has time, which is seldom. I think her general reaction to how I approach horse management is to sort of squint and pinch the bridge of her nose, or rub her temples. Hey, it works for me.

Agedhorse's horse/music performance sounds like quite a production. And even I would like to say I rode a horse up an active volcano. Cool.

 

[agedhorse]

Here's one from last year's pirate segment, I'm pulling a pirate ship with Capn' Jack:

 

[LowActionHero]

The space in your head, or headroom, has to be clean. Clutter leads to confusion and loss of headroom

Welp, I'm doomed then. . .