does techniquematter

[fearceol]

Nothing prevents you from speaking it like a native.

You've essentially reinforced your role in the analogy. You could learn to communicate in English better, you've chosen not to. We can still grok your meaning but the initial impression is a bit of a turn off.

Music is the same. Those little details you've chosen not to learn will be noticeable by other musicians, they'll likely find those traits to be negative. YMMV.

Come on..!!!.. give the guy a break here. None of us know how long he has being learning English. Nor can we say for certain, that he has chosen not to go any further in his learning of English. Can you not give him the benefit of the doubt that it is a "work in progress"? He has obviously chosen to learn, otherwise he would not have posted.

He came on here asking some genuine questions, not..as he says himself...for a finger wagging session regarding his grasp of (to him..) a foreign language.

OP, welcome to Talk Bass. I'd just like to say that the answers given in threads like this are generally not as condescending as the one above.

 

[pacojas]

a light touch will compensate for most techniques, in my experience! i don't monkey fist the neck. i don't dig in too hard. if you do so everything will work out as you apply different techniques.
imo, if you're constantly getting blisters you are doing it wrong!!!!!
if your hands are fatigued after you finish playing you're probably working too hard, imo.
of course,.. you may be just fine

 

[KickingBass]

Do you mind if we see your technique (video or even pics would help) so that we can see if it's working as well as you think it is?

 

[lz4005]

Come on..!!!.. give the guy a break here. None of us know how long he has being learning English. Nor can we say for certain, that he has chosen not to go any further in his learning of English.

He has said in other threads that he knows how to use punctuation, capital letters and paragraphs but chooses not to on here because he "isn't trying to impress anyone".
When he tries he can communicate in better English than many native speakers. But he usually doesn't put in the effort.

 

[fearceol]

He has said in other threads that he knows how to use punctuation, capital letters and paragraphs but chooses not to on here because he "isn't trying to impress anyone".
When he tries he can communicate in better English than many native speakers. But he usually doesn't put in the effort.

That puts a different slant on things.

 

[socialleper]

I been playing bass for years. Im self taught i have never sat down and took a bass lesson ever. Being self trained makes me think about my technique is it proper. i dont feel like i have any issues playing,but i do notice people attack and fret the bass different than . Im sure even after all these years if i sat down with a teacher id be to comfortable doing it my way to start fresh his way. so i guess im saying if you make the note sing and your tone does not suffer from your attack/technique then does your technique really matter at all. After all slap, pick, slide and all other techniques besides fingers were thought of at one point as being not proper someone just had to break out and try something different Matty

The first thing "proper" technique can do it nip ergonomic issues in the bud that may physically hurt you down the road. Doing the wrong thing with your wrist or shoulders can cause a lot of pain years later.

Beyond that, unless you are investing time into certain playing techniques like double thumping, tapping, etc how you want to play your bass is up to you. Some of the greatest bass players have terrible technique. Guys like Geddy Lee and James Jamerson rely heavily on one finger of their right hand instead of alternating. Geezer Butler used to bat at his strings using way more energy than was needed. Cliff Burton dug in really hard and also tended to use just his index finger.

Do what works for you, just don't hurt yourself or adopt habits that will limit you.

 

[matty4string]

He has said in other threads that he knows how to use punctuation, capital letters and paragraphs but chooses not to on here because he "isn't trying to impress anyone".
When he tries he can communicate in better English than many native speakers. But he usually doesn't put in the effort.

I was born in the USA. I was completely kidding.

 

[tbz]

Come on..!!!.. give the guy a break here. None of us know how long he has being learning English. Nor can we say for certain, that he has chosen not to go any further in his learning of English. Can you not give him the benefit of the doubt that it is a "work in progress"? He has obviously chosen to learn, otherwise he would not have posted.

He came on here asking some genuine questions, not..as he says himself...for a finger wagging session regarding his grasp of (to him..) a foreign language.

OP, welcome to Talk Bass. I'd just like to say that the answers given in threads like this are generally not as condescending as the one above.

OP had admitted English is his first language and that he's just too lazy to type properly.

Clearly he needs you to defend and coddle him.

My message was "this example shows you why you should learn to play properly" not "derp derp ya don't speak English and you suck".

It's weird how easily people get triggered on forums.

As a side note I know foreign born people that speak and write better than natives. So...keep pretending.

 

[Mushroo]

I was born in the USA. I was completely kidding.

See what you did there? You deliberately chose to write with bad writing technique, and got a certain response from your peers. If you choose to write with good writing technique, you will get a different kind of response. Right or wrong, people judge and draw conclusions based on how we present ourselves.

Music is like that, too. Your level of discipline, attention to detail, and good technique (or lack thereof) will influence how you are perceived by your audience and your reputation among your peers.

 

[KickingBass]

I was born in the USA. I was completely kidding.

Well now that makes it hard to trust you... You probably didn't really make the Deans list either... Mushroo makes a good point. As a writing teacher, I teach my students that how we write tells people a whole lot about us. Your technique tells a lot about you too. Does that mean it has to be perfect? No. My writing isn't perfect nor is my technique but if I don't mind those representations of me, then it's all good. My technique is often sloppy when I'm really having fun with my playing or I'm moving a lot on stage. If I have to play really properly I probably could though.

 

[fearceol]

OP had admitted English is his first language and that he's just too lazy to type properly.

Clearly he needs you to defend and coddle him.

My message was "this example shows you why you should learn to play properly" not "derp derp ya don't speak English and you suck".

It's weird how easily people get triggered on forums.

As a side note I know foreign born people that speak and write better than natives. So...keep pretending.

Far be it from me to "coddle" anyone on this forum.

Check my post no. 45.

 

[lz4005]

I was born in the USA. I was completely kidding.

I like you even less now. And I didn't like you before.

 

[quickfix]

It is technique that makes you sound the way you do. It is yours, and yours alone. It shouldn't be taught.

Skills, procedures, and methods are the things that are taught and practised. However, an instructor may illustrate their technique to you while demonstrating a particular skill, procedure, method, or point. But that is just for demonstration/teaching purposes. Still, you can't help but pick up some of their habits and techniques too.

 

[matty4string]

I like you even less now. And I didn't like you before.

Perfect...Maybe you should put more effort into bass instead of trying to be cool online.

 

[matty4string]

bet half you english critics have not even graduated high school i type what i want im not being graded online so i dont care

 

[MYLOWFREQ]

So it doesn't matter except it does?

I meant, as long as you don't do anything wrong to hurt your self physically, technique doesn't matter imo. And you can hurt your self. carpal tunnel syndrome and pinched nerve are two examples that bass players can be diagnosed with because of improper technique.

 

[fearceol]

bet half you english critics have not even graduated high school i type what i want

I think you are missing the point here. My interpretation of the language/typing/bass playing/ points being made in this thread is that you seem to apply the same careless and lazy approach to your bass playing... i.e... " it'll do....it's good enough..." as you do when you are typing. Discipline and attention to detail are what's required to progress with your playing.

This...coming from someone who initially sprang to your defence and was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt....until I found out the truth.

If you are simply just going to do what you want, why did you feel the need to post a question in the first place ?

 

[Woolber]

I meant, as long as you don't do anything wrong to hurt your self physically, technique doesn't matter imo. And you can hurt your self. carpal tunnel syndrome and pinched nerve are two examples that bass players can be diagnosed with because of improper technique.

I know what you meant. What you basically said however is it doesn't matter except it does. You even contradicted yourself in your explanation. Of course technique matters. In any endeavor. Great QB's and pitchers obsess about mechanics. Average ones do not. Proper technique brings economy of motion, fluidity, repeatability and consistency. That's not to say that new techniques can't be developed tapping in guitar and bass playing and the 2 handed backhand in tennis are new techniques that come to mind.

Anyone that says it doesn't matter is either content with where they are ( not necessarily a bad thing but one shouldn't encourage others to be mediocre as well ), doesn't know any better or is just lazy.

 

[Woolber]

It is technique that makes you sound the way you do. It is yours, and yours alone. It shouldn't be taught.

Is this the musical misinformation forum? You are incorrect.

 

[Lobster11]

For the life of me I cannot understand why someone who is fully capable of writing with correct spelling, grammar, syntax, and punctuation would choose deliberately to write as if they were functionally illiterate. What benefit exactly do you gain by doing this?

Why do I care? First, because I find it annoying to have to read a post three or four times to figure out what you're trying to say. And second, it leaves me wondering why I should bother to make the effort to try to provide a helpful response to your question if you aren't willing to make the effort to pose it clearly. If your goal in posting a question is to actually receive helpful answers, this isn't the way to do it.