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Does this 66' Jazz look legit.....
- Thread starter nitrofix
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Yeah the neck plate as far as I know is not legit.
I was under the impression that fender never did anything but serial numbers on there until the common F logo of the 70's.
I also thought the '66 jazzes only came with binding and dots.
The lolly pop tuners screams 66 though.
This should be interesting to see what some of the more knowledgeable folks have to say here.
I was under the impression that fender never did anything but serial numbers on there until the common F logo of the 70's.
I also thought the '66 jazzes only came with binding and dots.
The lolly pop tuners screams 66 though.
This should be interesting to see what some of the more knowledgeable folks have to say here.
First I have to find out if it's legit, then get an Attorney and does anyone know what the going rate for a kidney is ?
What does a 1966 jazz usually go for in this condition?
I was born in 1966 and would love to own one of these someday...
I was born in 1966 and would love to own one of these someday...
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Neck plate is wrong, regarding the binding plus dot things, early transition 66 models had bindings and dots, mine is a march 66 and has binding dots, they switched to block and dots in middle of 66!
Pictures dont really show much more, but considering the seller is calling it "all original" when it has a really obvious wrong neck plate i would be careful!
Pictures dont really show much more, but considering the seller is calling it "all original" when it has a really obvious wrong neck plate i would be careful!
Neck plate is wrong as stated.
Neck should have dots and not squares as stated.
Headstock should be painted white matching the body. BTW, that looks like a really bright white - most originals are nearly yellow by now.
Cloverleaf tuners are correct but look like they could be short shaft ones, not used till much much later. The oval or lollypop tuners were basically '65.
Headstock logo looks pretty much like my '66 P as far as looking "added on" but that's normal for the age.
No back shot of the headstock to look for the strap button that should be on the back as well as signs of tuner changes.
A real '66 Jazz in the apparent condition of this one - $5,000 and way on up.
Looks real supicious to me for an original '66.
Neck should have dots and not squares as stated.
Headstock should be painted white matching the body. BTW, that looks like a really bright white - most originals are nearly yellow by now.
Cloverleaf tuners are correct but look like they could be short shaft ones, not used till much much later. The oval or lollypop tuners were basically '65.
Headstock logo looks pretty much like my '66 P as far as looking "added on" but that's normal for the age.
No back shot of the headstock to look for the strap button that should be on the back as well as signs of tuner changes.
A real '66 Jazz in the apparent condition of this one - $5,000 and way on up.
Looks real supicious to me for an original '66.
Ditto: The neck plate doesn't look right. Don't those old white Fender colors yellow over time? Or, is this JB a closet queen?
Neck plate looks weird because it has a plastic body guard over the back of the body. They used to put on basses (see where it says Jazz Bass and the Fender logo looks like it was engraved in clear plastic). I can't find a pic right now, but the experts know what I'm talking about.
Here's a pic of a white one for a Jazzmaster. The one on the bass pictured is clear, but you get the idea...
Everything else looks legit to me, except the price. Blocks & binding are correct for mid-late 66, along with lollypops, headstock doesn't necessarily have to match the body on all 66's either.
The thing is, it's probably a post taken from a legit 66 ad (where the seller is asking much more) and re-posted by a scammer. That's why the language isn't in broken English. Until you get a response email.
Anyways, I'd definitely hit the guy up, but I'm 99% sure this bass doesn't exist to the person who posted it for $2000 - it probably exists somewhere else in the US and someone has posted it for MUCH more than you see here.
I saw a few NICE 60's Fenders going for unreasonably low prices in my local CL and I contacted them all. They were all scams. You'll know when you get the response email.
Here's a pic of a white one for a Jazzmaster. The one on the bass pictured is clear, but you get the idea...
Everything else looks legit to me, except the price. Blocks & binding are correct for mid-late 66, along with lollypops, headstock doesn't necessarily have to match the body on all 66's either.
The thing is, it's probably a post taken from a legit 66 ad (where the seller is asking much more) and re-posted by a scammer. That's why the language isn't in broken English. Until you get a response email.
Anyways, I'd definitely hit the guy up, but I'm 99% sure this bass doesn't exist to the person who posted it for $2000 - it probably exists somewhere else in the US and someone has posted it for MUCH more than you see here.
I saw a few NICE 60's Fenders going for unreasonably low prices in my local CL and I contacted them all. They were all scams. You'll know when you get the response email.
Found the e Bay ad...The listing was removed so I guess this is where the current seller got the pictures from....
1966 Fender Jazz Bass in White w/ Rosewood Fingerboard | eBay
The serial number does match to a 66'...
1966 Fender Jazz Bass in White w/ Rosewood Fingerboard | eBay
The serial number does match to a 66'...
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Devil's advocate points for kicks:
- You can't reliably tell the tint of the white from those picture - Digital camera white balance could give you anything.
- The neck plate appears to very faintly retain the proper large "F" (I assume proper because this 66 was for sale for $6,750 and there was no issue taken with the plate). Also, like the "F" that I believe I can make out, the serial number is worn far differently from the other writing. Those could have been etched/stamped at a different time for some reason onto a plate that had only the serial and "F"
- The fretboard can be right based on this legit 66. If all solid color units had matching faces, that's a problem, but what if it was originally a burst? The neck and face would be right. It's not too had to believe that this thing could have been painted at some point in the past 45 years without the person who has it now knowing about it.
- You can't reliably tell the tint of the white from those picture - Digital camera white balance could give you anything.
- The neck plate appears to very faintly retain the proper large "F" (I assume proper because this 66 was for sale for $6,750 and there was no issue taken with the plate). Also, like the "F" that I believe I can make out, the serial number is worn far differently from the other writing. Those could have been etched/stamped at a different time for some reason onto a plate that had only the serial and "F"
- The fretboard can be right based on this legit 66. If all solid color units had matching faces, that's a problem, but what if it was originally a burst? The neck and face would be right. It's not too had to believe that this thing could have been painted at some point in the past 45 years without the person who has it now knowing about it.
Oops, so the CL post was definitely a scam. Didn't see this before I posted. In those pics, you can definitely see that the plate has the big F and then has some kind of odd looking "second level" of print.
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Ah, interesting.
And with the better pictures, you can see that there was white paint on the face. There's just a little bit left.
I wonder what the CL scam was, an attempt to get someone to show up with $2,000 and rob them?
