I'm not sure if this is in the right forum, if it isn't, mods feel free to move it. Now I've seen a number of methods of learning to learn songs by ear on talkbass but they all start with one horrible,horrible assumption: They all assume you can pick out notes of the song by ear! Now correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what I'm trying to learn isn't it? I'm guessing you guys and girls are looking at it from the other side of the fence; that is, you're looking at it post-improving you're ear to the point where you could do that. I wan't to learn songs by ear, I don't want to be slave to tabs, I want to be able to listen to song and pick out the chords and what the bassist is doing underneath those chords! Don't get me wrong, I don't think this is gonna be easy, I know it will take lots of hard work and commitment and most of all practice, and I am fully prepared to do that. I know some people- like the guitarist in my band-have been around music and playing it their entire life, and whilst he might not know a lick of theory, he can pick anything out of a song and play it, without knowing how he knows. Some people just say "dont use tabs, just learn it by ear" well that's great, how? So that's really what I want to know, how can I set up a practice regime to improve my ear to the point where I can learn a song myself. (I've only ever done one little thing my self, I figured out the first chord of a song, and that was just from noodling on my guitar, not something I could reproduce!) I apologise for rambling, -Bernard.