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Dominants and boomy Stat-B

Discussion in 'Amps, Mics & Pickups [DB]' started by jannejava, Dec 4, 2005.

  1. Dec 4, 2005 #1
    jannejava

    jannejava

    Mar 28, 2004
    Sweden
    After all the talk here at TBL I decided to try a set of Domintants (orchestra). This is the string! But they havn't settle down yet so they are a bit twangy.

    But now I have trouble with the low end from my Stat-B. It is too boomy. I tend to get feedback in the lower registers. My little GK is having a hard time. If I roll off the bass theres no tone left.

    I assume a high pass filter like Fishman Bass Pro would sort this out, but I wonder if other Stat-B users have the same experience. Is there something I can do on the bass?

    Regards, Jan
     
  2. Dec 4, 2005 #2
    Tbeers

    Tbeers

    Mar 27, 2005
    Berlin
    Are you playing on a GK MB150 combo? If so, I can tell you what has worked for me with Dominants -> Stat-B -> GK.

    -10 dB pad: ON
    Treble: 10 o clock
    Hi Mid: 10-11 o clock
    Lo Mid: 11 o clock
    Bass: 12 o clock
    Limiter: OFF, I do not think this does any good
    Voicing Filter: ON, use a LITTLE bit of contour and NO high boost
    Chorus: OFF

    Here is something to try for relative volume levels:

    Stat-Pre preamp: 12 o clock
    Output level: 1 o clock
    Volume: 11 o clock

    My results have been pretty decent with that setup. Fiddle with the contour knob carefully... in my experience I have always been able to find one spot where it cuts out the crud from the bottom of the sound, but does not kill tone. It's a delicate balancing act.

    Also, your bass is obviously a different instrument from mine. I can't say that the approximate settings I use will do anything positive for you.
     
  3. Dec 5, 2005 #3
    jannejava

    jannejava

    Mar 28, 2004
    Sweden
    Thanks for the reply! Do you use the little Low Cut-button?
     
  4. Dec 5, 2005 #4
    drurb

    drurb Oracle, Ancient Order of Rass Hattur; Mem. #1, EPC

    Apr 17, 2004
    If it is boomy, a high-pass filter will likely do you no good. The "boomy" region, as it is perceived, is usually well above the lowest frequencies that you do want to reproduce. So, a high-pass filter set to tame the boomy region, would attenuate those low frequencies even further.
     
  5. Dec 5, 2005 #5
    Tbeers

    Tbeers

    Mar 27, 2005
    Berlin
    Yes, but I do not use any high boost, and I use only a modest amount of low cut. That is what I meant when I wrote about the "voicing filter."
     
  6. Dec 6, 2005 #6
    bolo

    bolo

    May 29, 2005
    Apex, NC
    DRURB, are you saying that "boominess" lurks in say like the 150-165 Hz region? I associate that region with "resonance" moreso than "boominess" in my head and my ears.

    Isn't it fun (?) sometimes trying to use words to describe sound, tone and timbre?
     
  7. Dec 12, 2005 #7
    drurb

    drurb Oracle, Ancient Order of Rass Hattur; Mem. #1, EPC

    Apr 17, 2004
    Well, yes, more or less. I think of "boomy" as being the result of a peak in response certainly no lower than 150 Hz. That's why I said that id one employed a high-pass filter to attenuate those frequencies and higher, one would kill the precious low end.
     
  8. Dec 13, 2005 #8
    anonymous8547j7d7b

    anonymous8547j7d7b Guest

    Jul 1, 2005
    Dunno if this will help any, but I have been playing around with the relative amp & stat-pre volume levels for a while. I found that having more level from the stat-pre (ie 2 or 3 o'clock as opposed to 12) and less gain from my amp gives better results. Basses and amps vary etc, but you might get something from it even if it doesn't solve the "boom". I seem to recall playing my last bass with the stat-b etc thru a GK and not liking it over much. Can't recall why though, so no help!