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EBMM StingRay Special Club

Help, Guys, and Ladys... I am confused.
As my Avatar says, I have (had) 2 Stingrays. Purple 2 Band and a (bought used) HH Special.
I got used to, that the Special sounds different. Really different, even in the H mode. I knew they would sound different, because of the different Pickups and Electronic.
But, I just got a MusicMan Sterling with the 3 Way Switch and my Special has that sound, my Sterling makes in Serial Mode.
How can I check if my wiring is in serial mode?
 
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It looks like I cant rewire anything 🫠
 

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I have both a SR 4H and a SRS 5H. Both sound like StingRays, but if you enjoy the crispness of the treble of the non-Special and want that out of a Ray then the Special might leave you yearning for more. I still believe the Special sounds excellent, but it is more polite.
I guess I'll just have to try one out some day before I drop that kind of money on one.

I think I've confused some people with this question though...it's not about the amount of treble, its the voicing. Over the last decade or so, treble voicing across the industry as moved lower, with corner frequencies now around 4k. With the slope being used your still boosting a lot of 2-4k, which while some people says sounds "sweeter" or more polite, to me its painful to the ears. It's what a lot of engineers cut out of foh so they can mix a little louder.

Seems like they've tried to Fenderize the stingray :drool:
 
I guess I'll just have to try one out some day before I drop that kind of money on one.

I think I've confused some people with this question though...it's not about the amount of treble, its the voicing. Over the last decade or so, treble voicing across the industry as moved lower, with corner frequencies now around 4k. With the slope being used your still boosting a lot of 2-4k, which while some people says sounds "sweeter" or more polite, to me its painful to the ears. It's what a lot of engineers cut out of foh so they can mix a little louder.

Seems like they've tried to Fenderize the stingray :drool:
This might be helpful. Although the demo doesn’t include a Special, you get the idea of what the non-Special, 3-band was doing. That high-end peak of the non-Special no longer exists with the Special.

 
The high-end peak was not present on the old Stingrays. When I was researching Stingrays prior to buying my Special, I found that that high-end peak (harshness) was the main source of complaints about the pre-Specials, with players often lamenting that they didn't sound like the originals. The Special brought back a sound that is much closer to the pre-EB guitars (and the Retros that are based on them).
 
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Sounds like a Fender, but costs way more.
I own this bass and the moonbeam. I have owned several Fenders. These basses can get into Fender territory , but trust me ….. they don’t sound like Fenders. They sound like MusicMans which is essentially a more modern voiced Fender . Someone here summed it up quite nicely. The Specials are a blend of the original 2bands and the 3 band pre Specials.

I think you are noticing the versatility in the switching options . They get close …. But not exact Fender duplicates with some of the options. Technique, strings, amps , eq , ect will all play a big part in shaping the sound.

The guy playing the moonbeam BFR is using just the original StingRay position #5 bridge pickup only. That’s why you think it sounds like a StingRay.

Just goes to show how versatile the 5HH is.
 
Kinda a random question. Maybe I'm just overthinking it. I have a set of Super Slinkys 45-100 on my Stingray. And the E string seems to emphasize the finger noise when I plucking across the string. Could it just be a wonky string? I tend to run semi higher action. Ordered a new set of heavier guage strings to try tomorrow. EQ also doesn't run crazy treble strong also have a LPF engaged.
 
I own this bass and the moonbeam. I have owned several Fenders. These basses can get into Fender territory , but trust me ….. they don’t sound like Fenders. They sound like MusicMans which is essentially a more modern voiced Fender . Someone here summed it up quite nicely. The Specials are a blend of the original 2bands and the 3 band pre Specials.

I think you are noticing the versatility in the switching options . They get close …. But not exact Fender duplicates with some of the options. Technique, strings, amps , eq , ect will all play a big part in shaping the sound.

The guy playing the moonbeam BFR is using just the original StingRay position #5 bridge pickup only. That’s why you think it sounds like a StingRay.

Just goes to show how versatile the 5HH is.
I'm just messin' with you. I own a bunch of fenders. They are good for what they are intended for.
 
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The high-end peak was not present on the old Stingrays. When I was researching Stingrays prior to buying my Special, I found that that high-end peak (harshness) was the main source of complaints about the pre-Specials, with players often lamenting that they didn't sound like the originals. The Special brought back a sound that is much closer to the pre-EB guitars (and the Retros that are based on them).
What years/models are we talking about here, for reference? I feel like my 2000 model sr5 is very smooth in the top end.

But we all hear thing differently. I'm not a player that plays with thr treble boosted all the time....but when I do boost i prefer it to be voiced somewhere between genzler and gk, rather than today's more common aguilar style voicings (woret amps I've ever played by the way)
 
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What years/models are we talking about here, for reference? I feel like my 2000 model sr5 is very smooth in the top end.

But we all hear thing differently. I'm not a player that plays with thr treble boosted all the time....but when I do boost i prefer it to be voiced somewhere between genzler and gk, rather than today's more common aguilar style voicings (woret amps I've ever played by the way)
A 2000 SR5 would be one of the ones with the "harshness" people talk about. That's the pre-Special 3 band. It has a lower treble voicing than the 2 band, with a wide hump generally centered from 4 to 5k, as opposed to the 2 band's more focused spike at 10k. It also has a HPF in it which the 2 band didn't have. Not only that, a 2000 would have a ceramic pickup rather than alnico. So, your Ray is actually the most aggressive species of Stingray.
 
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A 2000 SR5 would be one of the ones with the "harshness" people talk about. That's the pre-Special 3 band. It has a lower treble voicing than the 2 band, with a wide hump generally centered from 4 to 5k, as opposed to the 2 band's more focused spike at 10k. It also has a HPF in it which the 2 band didn't have. Not only that, a 2000 would have a ceramic pickup rather than alnico. So, your Ray is actually the most aggressive species of Stingray.
So I've read. I guess compared to my MFD equipped G&Ls, it seems mellow.
 
A 2000 SR5 would be one of the ones with the "harshness" people talk about. That's the pre-Special 3 band. It has a lower treble voicing than the 2 band, with a wide hump generally centered from 4 to 5k, as opposed to the 2 band's more focused spike at 10k. It also has a HPF in it which the 2 band didn't have. Not only that, a 2000 would have a ceramic pickup rather than alnico. So, your Ray is actually the most aggressive species of Stingray.
I’m pretty sure the preamp in the SR5 ceramic is different from the one in the pre-special SR4 3eq. I love the tone of my 2003 SR5.
 
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Hello all! Although I'm not a Stingray Special owner (yet), I played a used one yesterday for the first time at a local shop, also my first time through a real deal SVT CL. Truly a life changing experience, as it was probably the best tone that I've played through.

Of course this introduces inconsolable GAS, and I'm tempted to sell a bunch of gear in order to get this Special that I played. My question is, does anyone here play a Stingray through GK amps? I'm going to end up taking my Legacy combo down there to try it, but that likely wouldn't be until Wednesday.

Any words of advice are appreciated, and for those wondering, it's a black n' maple 4HH with the 18v pre!
 
Hello all! Although I'm not a Stingray Special owner (yet), I played a used one yesterday for the first time at a local shop, also my first time through a real deal SVT CL. Truly a life changing experience, as it was probably the best tone that I've played through.

Of course this introduces inconsolable GAS, and I'm tempted to sell a bunch of gear in order to get this Special that I played. My question is, does anyone here play a Stingray through GK amps? I'm going to end up taking my Legacy combo down there to try it, but that likely wouldn't be until Wednesday.

Any words of advice are appreciated, and for those wondering, it's a black n' maple 4HH with the 18v pre!
I had GK, Markbass and now Aguilar. They all sound good , but the Aguilar is my personal preference. GK and StingRay Special will not disappoint you.