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Economical places that press 7"s

#41
Just unwrapped the newest TV On the Radio record(s!) I picked up this morning. I didn't even realize it was a double album, with such beautiful color swirl, with a 10 page 11'×11' lyric/picture booklet. That art is almost completely lost in a compact disc packaging :rollno:

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sissy kathy said:
I don't understand why you want to use 100 year old technology at great expense when you can do the things on CD for 1/10 the cost and get the same audio quality. If you do them yourself there is not even any need to compress the files.
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Because people buy up the records as soon as we release them..cd's? Not so much
 
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sissy kathy said:
I don't understand why you want to use 100 year old technology at great expense when you can do the things on CD for 1/10 the cost and get the same audio quality. If you do them yourself there is not even any need to compress the files.
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Many of us were, are, and will continue to be into vinyl.
Even cassettes are making a comeback.
 
#44
catcauphonic said:
All this talk of records got my mouth and ears watering! I just got back from one of the 20+ local record stores ... cashed in a gift certificate the In Laws got me last Xmas, and a few coins of my own on another 6 titles:

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I usually do most of my record shopping at Goodwills, garage sales, annual & semi-Ann localy held record conventions, but yesterday was my birthday :D ... coincidence that it falls on National Record Store Day?? I think not ;)
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Oh, that Sunny Day Real Estate record.
So great.
I still have my original copy.


Oh, and I second the previous suggestion of Gotta Groove Records.
They even have a crowdfunding program.
Gotta Groove Records | The Artist's Preferred Record Pressing Plant
 
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catcauphonic said:
Just unwrapped the newest TV On the Radio record(s!) I picked up this morning. I didn't even realize it was a double album, with such beautiful color swirl, with a 10 page 11'×11' lyric/picture booklet. That art is almost completely lost in a compact disc packaging :rollno:
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You could always release a CD in a 12" sleeve with nice art, etc - or even up to a 4 CD set to make more effective use of the available package space. It might be a good lower-budget approach for some folks to look at, if the art is a big part of making the sale. Likewise, it's entirely possible to make a decent booklet at CD size, or art that folds out, or an audio/computer CD with digital art, etc. But it's rare, yes, particularly with the genre starting with shrunken album art at pretty low resolution. Mind you, I find the lyrics provided (even when there was only vinyl, unless you bought a tape) are so often clearly not what is on the record that their value is limited.

If the vinyl aficionados will turn up and buy it, that's an excellent reason to sell it...
 
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SunnBass said:
Oh, that Sunny Day Real Estate record.
So great.
I still have my original copy.


Oh, and I second the previous suggestion of Gotta Groove Records.
They even have a crowdfunding program.
Gotta Groove Records | The Artist's Preferred Record Pressing Plant
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Thanks for the info!

I originally first bought that Sunny Day release on CD in like '92 ... I sold it, along with almost all but 50 of my CDs in a box somewhere in the back of the closet, and have been craving the LP replace ever since ... Go me! :hyper:
 
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DwaynieAD said:
Noticed very few that had vinyl pressed are naming what they paid. And none are saying how many of the 2, 3, or 500 units they have sitting in boxes in there garage.
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I honestly don't remember what we paid per piece.
But I know even if we sold them for $10, we cut a profit (although it would be small I'm sure).
We started with 250 and have like maybe 20 left.
There, happy?

But, we know a lot of people, so that helped.
Plus, our band is set up to financially sustain itself, not for profit.
Show money buys gas to get to more shows, show money goes to merch, merch money goes to recording, etc...it's cyclical.



But none of that matters to a band who wants to do it.
If you wanna press vinyl then do so.
If you wanna make CDs, do it.
Hell, make cassette dubs in your bedroom.
Or just go completely digital.
Just get the music out there the way you want to.

Audiophile arguments aside, there is no best media.
 
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I'd personally be willing to shell out $5per unit, including sleeves/inserts etc, and I'd probably go another dollar for the translucent or color slab. Only 200 units max would I be comfortable in stocking at this point, tho. I don't even care if we don't make a dime from then ... Id be happy to break even.
 
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It is much easier to sell vinyl than CDs at shows these days except when you get away from cities. Drunkies still buy CDs at shows out in the burbs, God bless them, and my last album sold a ton of CDs online, but not as many vinyl copies- which was OK because the postage on vinyl pretty much wiped out the profit margin. I kept my vinyl price low because I recorded the album all analog and it's how I really wanted people to buy it.

Pirate Press is OK, but kind of hard to actually get someone on the phone if you actually need any sort of human connection to feel good about the process. All e-mail auto reply and "we'll get back to you", very impersonal. United in Nashville is a smidge more, but they really care.
 
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I think vinyl is a niche market. Is it making a full comeback? I doubt it, but tons of new economy products started as niche products. Whether it's craft beer or handmade bicycles, stuff that's been around for a 100 years is making a comeback at a higher price point. A new vinyl LP is like the Belgian ale of recorded music delivery. You can actually buy a $100,000 turntable, which makes the $70 vinyl album I saw at Fye less shocking.
 
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fretter said:
I think vinyl is a niche market. Is it making a full comeback? I doubt it, but tons of new economy products started as niche products. Whether it's craft beer or handmade bicycles, stuff that's been around for a 100 years is making a comeback at a higher price point. A new vinyl LP is like the Belgian ale of recorded music delivery. You can actually buy a $100,000 turntable, which makes the $70 vinyl album I saw at Fye less shocking.
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It will never make a full in comeback, but there are enough enthusiasts to support it as a small (potentially) profitable industry like bike manufactures ... most of the populace will never give up their cars, but the industry sustains itself just fine
 
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fretter said:
I think vinyl is a niche market. Is it making a full comeback? I doubt it, but tons of new economy products started as niche products. Whether it's craft beer or handmade bicycles, stuff that's been around for a 100 years is making a comeback at a higher price point. A new vinyl LP is like the Belgian ale of recorded music delivery. You can actually buy a $100,000 turntable, which makes the $70 vinyl album I saw at Fye less shocking.
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catcauphonic said:
It will never make a full in comeback, but there are enough enthusiasts to support it as a small (potentially) profitable industry like bike manufactures ... most of the populace will never give up their cars, but the industry sustains itself just fine
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not make a comeback? the sales last year were the highest vinyl sales since 1995! it's back and has been rising steadily for the last 10 years. vinyl is back and better than ever with digital download cards included.

Record High: Vinyl Sales Hit Their Highest Level in 20 Years
 
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markjazzbassist said:
not make a comeback? the sales last year were the highest vinyl sales since 1995! it's back and has been rising steadily for the last 10 years. vinyl is back and better than ever with digital download cards included.

Record High: Vinyl Sales Hit Their Highest Level in 20 Years
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That may be so, but it will never be the leading music listening medium as it once was where every household aspired to have a turntable. Small, personal, and portable that you can walk with & plug into your car as well as home stereo (if you even have more than speakers to plug into), is the way the mainstream market is going
 
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catcauphonic said:
That may be so, but it will never be the leading music listening medium as it once was where every household aspired to have a turntable. Small, personal, and portable that you can walk with & plug into your car as well as home stereo (if you even have more than speakers to plug into), is the way the mainstream market is going
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i see the need for both. people listen to the turntable at home and the iphone on the go.
 

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