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Eden E300T

#3
Hi.

username1 said:
It looks like it is just an updated and revamped E300t according to their website, heres a link
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As the head box construction is now identical to way its parent and siblings (Smarvo, Ashton, Fame) have always been, instead of the rather classy (IMHO) vintagy looking box, I for one fail to see why that would make it an update ;).

Regards
Sam
 
#5
Mostly a change to tolex and metal grill from carpet and grillcloth.
I think they also were supposed to fix the mute switch not muting the DI.
Other than that, same amp. I've been gigging regularly with the 300T for close to a year now - great sound, no problems with it whatsoever.

Dan
 
#8
I bought the Eden E300T all tube amp. Yes, it's awesome.

In the manual, it is recommended that the tube bias be set at .020 volts, or 20 millivolts.

Is this a "recommendation" , or is it imperative ? I noticed that the bias was set much higher. It had a nice growl. When I changed the bias to it's recommended .020v, it cleaned it up considerably. I liked the SVT tone I got from the higher bias that I had set at .070 volts. I don't know if this was my imagination, or if the tone actually changed with higher bias.

Will a higher bias damage the amp ?

On youtube, Lane mentions a .035v setting.

So, is it .020v or .035v , or ?

Help me with the correct answer, please !

Thanks guys,

Mike B.

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#9
Smu573 said:
We changed the cosmetics and made the mute function also mute the DI. This is built for us in the Smarvo factory to our specs it is not a clone of the Smarvo Fame. (This is a common miconception)
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ya, somewhere on here there's pics of the insides of both and they're not identical. not by much, though.

at first i didn't like the steel grille, but it's growing on me. it's kind of cool to see the tubes.
 
#11
I have read that some Eden E300T owners play with this amp upside down to keep the tubes on the bottom, and to allow the heat to rise through the vent that is, of all places, on the bottom !

So, when you turn this amp upside down, the tubes are on the bottom, and the vents are on the top.

Why was this amp designed this way ? Will it really make a big difference in heat dissipation ? There seems to be enough ventilation, although I would like to replace the front cloth with a grill.

Thanks for your input.

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mb94952 said:
I have read that some Eden E300T owners play with this amp upside down to keep the tubes on the bottom, and to allow the heat to rise through the vent that is, of all places, on the bottom !

So, when you turn this amp upside down, the tubes are on the bottom, and the vents are on the top.

Why was this amp designed this way ? Will it really make a big difference in heat dissipation ? There seems to be enough ventilation, although I would like to replace the front cloth with a grill.

Thanks for your input.

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Amps work upside-down? Does this affect the phase of the output?
 
#14
i would never use an amp that only worked upside down, and i doubt even us music would put out an amp that would only work upside down. i think it's silly. fender amps always hung their tubes the same way and i've never had one overheat.
 
#15
Hi.

Speaking as a someone who has the same amp in the "correct" orientation, it's not as much the tubes that overheat, it's the capacitors in the chassis. And unless Eden has changed the bear claw retainers to top-hats, the tubes will fall of eventually.

JimmyM said:
i would never use an amp that only worked upside down, and i doubt even us music would put out an amp that would only work upside down. i think it's silly. fender amps always hung their tubes the same way and i've never had one overheat.
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Well they did flat out lie about the origins of the amp in the beginning which probably says something about them.

AFAIK Fender didn't have any amps with tube dissipation larger than 25W, and all of them had bakelite or plastic bases, so bear claws were adequate substitution for more secure retainers.

Regards
Sam
 
#17
Hi.

And that's a real shame I think.

It's a really good amp for the money IME, and a chance for more bassplayers to have access to something only guitar players have been able to get = a reasonably priced new tube amp.

Slightly OT, sorry.

What I don't get (well perhaps because I'm European), is why on earth did they lie.
It wasn't the first time they had outsourced, with the same company no less. In these days everything outside of the boutique circles seems to be outsourced to some extent so my guess would be that no one would've cared. Exept for the double price of course, but getting into that would be mean ;).

Regards
Sam
 
#18
I tried to order the front and rear new style grille material w/emblem, from Eden, and Tim says that they aren't even going to stock those parts. Maybe if enough of us E300T owners ask for the updated grilles, we can get them to supply them for us.
 
#19
T-Bird said:
Hi.

Speaking as a someone who has the same amp in the "correct" orientation, it's not as much the tubes that overheat, it's the capacitors in the chassis. And unless Eden has changed the bear claw retainers to top-hats, the tubes will fall of eventually.



Well they did flat out lie about the origins of the amp in the beginning which probably says something about them.

AFAIK Fender didn't have any amps with tube dissipation larger than 25W, and all of them had bakelite or plastic bases, so bear claws were adequate substitution for more secure retainers.

Regards
Sam
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Hi Sam,
So - Back to my original question then. Do I play the amp in the "correct" orientation as they produced it, or do I turn it upside down ?

I had a Peavey all tube guitar head once. They had they tubes strapped in with those reinforcement "thingies". No wonder Peavey gear is SOOOoo reliable ! :p

Also, all lying apart and politics aside, is this a good amp ? I'm starting to feel bummed out about all of the negative talk about it. Bottom line for me is
a.) is it objectively a good/reliable tube bass amp, and
b.) I like the way it sounds. For the money I think it's a fair deal. It has an SVT/SWR hybrid sound. As long as I don't need to invest any money into it, I'm ok with the politics. When I play it, I don't think about the politics of it. I think about chicks diggin' it !
 
#20
As a fellow E300T owner I believe that my happiness with the amp is enough to deflect all of the negative feelings regarding it. My impression is that most of the negativity come from its source of manufacture, Eden's waning popularity, and the impression that Eden was trying to "pull a fast one." Yes, some buyers had less than stellar experiences with mechanical issues but most brands seem to have these issues at some point (according to the myriad of threads that appear on TB about "my ____ has this problem"). I got a good one. I am pleased with the tone. I am pleased with the relative value. When it breaks or I can't get it serviced efficiently, I may change my mind. For now I see no issues. Enjoy it!
 

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