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Eden WTB400 vs. Carvin BX500

Carvin BX500 vs. Eden WTB400

  • Carvin BX500 clear choice for me!

    Votes: 66 40.7%
  • Eden WBT400 clear choice for me!

    Votes: 61 37.7%
  • Sorry, only have experience with one of them.

    Votes: 35 21.6%

  • Total voters
    162
I ordered the Eden WTB400 from amazon on Tuseday night for $277 shipped after my wp100 order was cancelled by musiciansfriend :(. The head came in yesterday and is a solid preformer. The distortion is alright, but coming from an Ampeg BA115HP this head sounds like heaven. Dialing in a nice tone is actually incredibly easy and the low end is really thick and heavy, for the price I paid it was a steal!
 
I ordered the Eden WTB400 from amazon on Tuseday night for $277 shipped after my wp100 order was cancelled by musiciansfriend :(. The head came in yesterday and is a solid preformer. The distortion is alright, but coming from an Ampeg BA115HP this head sounds like heaven. Dialing in a nice tone is actually incredibly easy and the low end is really thick and heavy, for the price I paid it was a steal!

That sounds great. I won't usually rely on the amp for distortion when I need it. Thanks for the quick review.

I had one in my cart for that price but waited until the next morning to pull the trigger, literally only 12 hours, and the price went up 200 bucks!

Been there, done that! Next time you won't hesitate. Worst case senario, you hate it, you send it back for refund.
 
That was classic! It only took until the 3rd page to actually get a comment on the Eden WTB400. I agree about the lack of reviews and input on that Eden. It's almost like it's some kind of "black sheep" of the Eden family.
Among many others, I've recently owned the GK2001 and the Thunderfunk 550. I bought a new dual Ampeg SVT 8-10 rig in 1969 and travel/toured with it for 13 years, then went to a Yamaha biamp preamp and power amp to JBL drivers for several years after that and on and on, ad nauseam. Some (OK most) of my rigs were overkill but my experience in 40+ years of bassism is that setups with a lot of reserve power (or headroom) usually sound great and don't blow up in live situations.
Now that I'm a wee bit older, mini amp heads make a lot of sense and right now there are a lot of choices out there. I've decided on Eden because (1) I've never owned one and (2) the numerous Eden owners on this site get all drooly and glassy eyed when they talk about their amps like us Alembic folks do about our axes. It’s obvious that there is something special there.
I'd like to get into my first Eden for $500 to $600 and the WTB400 fills that requirement. My question about the WTB400 would be what is the difference between the WTB black faced series and the more traditional gold faced units and, will it have enough 'reserve power' for the louder gigs? For now it's all a mystery. Somebody clear it up please.
 
I loved my Thunderfunk. Only hard times forced me to sell it.:crying: I bought it to replace the GK2001 which was also a great amp but a bit too heavy for us more seasoned bass players. The TFB550 that I had is now obsolete, being replaced currently by the TFB800. The TFB550 had more than enough power for any venue that I play anymore.

The great thing about the TF was the same thing Eden users say about their Edens. With any decent bass and any decent speaker setup, you could set everything to flat and have a great bass tone to start with. After that, there were more than enough tone tweaking tools on board to taylor your sound many ways.

I'm going with Eden this time because the Thunderfunk is more expensive and heavier, although just 21 pounds. You almost never (and I mean never) find them used which tells you alot about any amp. You might want to check out the website. [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
 
i just got a Eden WTB 400 today nice warm sound better than ampeg id say, very powerful even through a 8 ohm cab it was loud enough for gigging with lots of power to spare, master 2/10 and gain 5/10. ill be running it with a avatar neo 410 1000 watts at 4 ohm cabinet. Time will tell if it holds up, i hope so, if not i got a 2 year warranty on it.
 
Only Eden head I ever owned was an WT-330. Not a bad head but not enough power for me and I didn't really care for that golden chip thing-tone.

My Carvin BX500 works and sounds great. Nothing at all "cheap" about it. Made right here in the US, not in some communist country, half way around the world.
 
i just got one today nice warm sound better than ampeg id say, very powerful even through a 8 ohm cab it was loud enough for gigging with lots of power to spare, master 2/10 and gain 5/10. ill be running it with a avatar neo 410 1000 watts at 4 ohm cabinet. Time will tell if it holds up, i hope so, if not i got a 2 year warranty on it.

So I assume your commenting on the Eden? You didn't specify but the 2yr warranty *hint* tips your hand..:D
 
I may jumping in a little late here, but I own the WTB400 and am considering the BX500.
My take on the Eden is that it's a clean, warm sounding amp. My issue with it is that I can't get enough highs out of it. My Ashdown MAG300 has screaming highs and is an aggressive sounding amp (exactly what I like), but it's noisy and has had some reliability issues, mostly with cold solder joints coming loose in the fan circuit and bridge rectifier. In retrospect, I probably should have gone with the next level up Ashdown, the ABM 500. But I got a deal and bought the Eden to replace the MAG as my main gigging amp, and I do use it for that. I've played the Eden thru an Eden D410XLT cab, a Peavey 2-10TVX and the MAG 2-10 cab that the Ashdown head came in. Sounds great thru the 410 Eden cab, but that's more cab than I normally need so I don't often get to use it like that. Currently, it resides in the Ashdown cab mainly for portability. It does sound nice, I just want more bite and crispness. I really need to crank the treble and adjust the semi-parametric to boost more highs, then bring the level on that up as well. I run the bass and mid a little past flat. It's a little better with active basses but still it's got less high end than I would like to have. Even with the highs cranked though, it's fairly quiet, not much hiss and way less than the MAG. It's got LOTS of bottom. The Enhance control is cool, but for the tone I want I don't use it much, maybe just up about 1/4 of the way.
These Eden black face WTB amps are different from the gold face WT amps, don't confuse them. The WTB's are FET amps, the WT's use tube preamp and are the "classic" Eden amp. The WTB's rose out of the Nemesis Line and have been discontinued.
Though the tone turned out to be not exactly what I wanted, I'm keeping the Eden for now, as it's the best built amp I've ever seen. Seriously, it's built like a tank, overbuilt even. I don't feel like I'll ever need to worry about reliability. I've opened it up, and the circuitry is immaculate and very robust looking. They call it military grade and I'll believe that. The adjustable level on the DI out is nice. The distortion is fair; I prefer a pedal. It will add a little bit of grind. Headphones jack is nice but there's no AUX in for practicing with CDs, iPod, etc.
So, it's really a nice amp, pretty hi-fi, quiet, warm and clean, decent EQ options with the Enhance, Semi-parametric EQ and standard bass/mid/treble controls. Just don't ask it for crisp ringing highs and you'll be fine.
For you BX500 owners, how does it handle when you push the high frequencies?
 

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