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Educate me on G&L basses

While many of my G&Ls have been great, and I still have three of them, I'm with @Ricky Rioli regarding QC. I don't think they're necessarily better than MIA Fenders in this respect; however, when you get a good one, it will be better than the vast majority of Fenders. The finishes are better, they can often set up with lower action, and they are rock solid structurally. My MIA Fenders are outstanding, but the good G&Ls are a step up, and I don't think Fender makes anything that can touch my M-2500.

Here's my G&L history (all USA):

L-1500 built to order through local dealer, 2006. Unfortunately, G&L got a bat batch of truss rods, so the neck needed to be replaced under warranty. Then it arrived with the wrong neck, so another wait ensued. When I finally got it with the correct neck, it turned out to be the best-playing bass I've ever owned. The preamp also received a local radio station, which was amusing, and for awhile I slipped a segment of a rubber band under the truss rod nut so it wouldn't rattle against the headstock. Great bass eventually, but not the greatest QC.

SB-2, bought new from G&L dealer in NC, 2007. Fantastic instrument, but it's very difficult to get a wrench into the truss rod nut, and there's a small but noticeable gap between the pickguard and body near the output jack. The latter doesn't bother me at all, but it's not the best QC.

JB, built to order through local dealer, 2010, and it is absolutely perfect. I got lucky with a quartersawn neck, which later became an option with an upcharge. Just an outstanding instrument that became my favorite four-string stage bass, especially with Lace Sensor Man o' War pickups.

M-2500, bought new from G&L dealer in AZ, 2014. Perfect, and a phenomenal instrument in every way.

Comanche guitar, built to order through local dealer, 2015. Also perfect.

JB-5, bought used in 2019. This one had issues, but since I was the third owner, I don't know whether the factory was responsible for all of them. It wouldn't set up with low action, and needed a shim. Some frets were too low or too high. It didn't hold a setup very well. But the factory WAS responsible for using a case that was too short, which caused the G string tuner to bump into the end of the case, which in turn caused that tuner to rattle. I quickly bought a replacement on G&L's site.

I thought one of the previous owners had used the wrong case, but later learned (here on TB) that several JB-5s shipped in these cases. Apparently G&L expected folks to turn the tuner so the paddle wouldn't hit the end of the case---ridiculous. I think they simply used cases designed for 3+2 headstocks with other basses, and it didn't work. This was all a shame, because the bass sounded great, looked fantastic, and had a very comfortable neck. (Luckily, I found a perfectly fitting used case at GC for $35 and sold the G&L case for $50, so at least I fixed that issue.) It didn't last long.

Legacy HSS guitar, built to order through Rocket Music, 2022. Simply gorgeous guitar that plays and sounds great, but it came with improper wiring, i.e., when split the bridge pickup wasn't hum-canceling when paired with the middle pickup. I just paid my local shop to fix it.

So, that's only three out of seven (43%) that were absolutely perfect, though the SB-2 has always been functionally perfect. Even placing the SB-2 in the win column, that's not a fantastic success rate (57%).

But I would still buy another. (Especially if they made a freaking five-string P-bass already! Jeez.) They offer features I prefer, like 12" radius fretboards and lightweight empress bodies, and when you buy new through a good dealer like Rocket Music you have a measure of protection from the QC problems.
 
Clarence Leonidas Fender

That reminds me of a peculiar thing re this '81 that I snagged off ebay back in 2003. It was a beat up pawn shop rescue for $399. The frets had deep grooves, the nut had been replaced with a brass one, and the neck had a nasty ski-jump.

Inside the neck pocket were the initials "CL" printed with a large black marker pen. A couple weeks after I got it the pawn shop seller wanted to buy it back, claiming the original pawner believed the CL was Leo's personal inspection sign-off, and now he wanted it back. I declined the buy-back offer and eventually sent the bass off to M. Dolan for new frets, nut, and straightening the neck (it's still straight 20+ years later). :thumbsup:

I have no idea if Leo wrote the CL, or what it might actually be, or what it might even stand for. I just know that I don't recall anyone else ever mentioning that type marking in a G&L neck pocket, although I wouldn't be totally surprised if there were others with that marking out there somewhere.

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You can get a 5 string LB100 or Matador through the Custom Shop now, I believe.

They teased 5 string P bass for so long then did that. Such a letdown. Should have brought back the L5000, only with more normal string spacing. I love my L5000. Expect a slightly updated version with normal G&L or even series 750 string spacing would sell in decent numbers. For reference the original L5000 is 15mm string spacing due to forcing 5 strings onto a 4 string neck.
 
They teased 5 string P bass for so long then did that. Such a letdown. Should have brought back the L5000, only with more normal string spacing. I love my L5000. Expect a slightly updated version with normal G&L or even series 750 string spacing would sell in decent numbers. For reference the original L5000 is 15mm string spacing due to forcing 5 strings onto a 4 string neck.
I agree. A sub $2000 5 string p bass with 18 or 19mm spacing would be an Instant buy for me. PJ would be even better IMO.
 
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You can get a 5 string LB100 or Matador through the Custom Shop now, I believe.

I knew about the Matador, which does look very cool, but I would want a straight-up P bass. I didn’t know about a Custom Shop LB-100, so thanks for the tip. I’m sure it’s more than I would want to spend, but who knows? Still probably less than a Mike Lull, for example.
 
I knew about the Matador, which does look very cool, but I would want a straight-up P bass. I didn’t know about a Custom Shop LB-100, so thanks for the tip. I’m sure it’s more than I would want to spend, but who knows? Still probably less than a Mike Lull, for example.
Probably, but not a ton less. As much as I love my G&Ls, I would probably go for a Lull at anything over $3500.