You mean you don't know your arppegio's which are linear chords? Ignorance is bliss I guess.
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Egotistical guitar players
- Thread starter Aaron D
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OP, I don't know if you wrote your post from your phone, but I couldn't get through it. Grammar and punctuation goes a long way when trying to get a point across--especially a wall of text. However, I got the gist of your message. I would have told the clerks to get f*&ked and leave the store without buying anything. But that's me and I'm a bit more bold than most.
McCartney is a musical genius. Those people are different than you and I. For the ordinary-schlub run of musicians, being able to sightread is a big enhancement.
Maca and crew made bazillions of $$ and couldn't read music. Whether or not the orchestral musicians could/should read music is irrelevant. They were hired for their skills. They probably didn't make much more than union scale - not that there's anything wrong with that. 
Shutting onesself off from others due to a *perceived* lack of skills only cuts you off from possibly experiencing a wonderful musical interlude. Why would anyone do that? I get that some of us are so busy in the studio or on the road that there really isn't time to waste on lesser muso's, but really?
There are quite a few FAMOUS! musicians who don't read. I'd be more than happy to work with them.... Granted, reading can get you more places than not-reading can, but being unable to read does not make a muso less than worthy.
OP, I don't know the circumstances under which you created your post, but it was difficult to read for all the reasons given. You can do better.
Shutting onesself off from others due to a *perceived* lack of skills only cuts you off from possibly experiencing a wonderful musical interlude. Why would anyone do that? I get that some of us are so busy in the studio or on the road that there really isn't time to waste on lesser muso's, but really?
There are quite a few FAMOUS! musicians who don't read. I'd be more than happy to work with them.... Granted, reading can get you more places than not-reading can, but being unable to read does not make a muso less than worthy.OP, I don't know the circumstances under which you created your post, but it was difficult to read for all the reasons given. You can do better.
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Oh my God, we really can't talk about the efficacy of learning to read music without bringing up the friggin' Beatles?
Jesus, get over the Beatles already.
Jesus, get over the Beatles already.
There's a big difference between being a transcriptionist and a composer and a sight-reader. It would take all of those skillsets to make this happen and all would likely be people I'd call "musicians" in this context. Not sure what doubling down on SP is accomplishing here. He made his point with the first post.
What? You don't like handy examples that everyone will recognize and understand?
"Paul McCartney couldn't read music" is NOT a legitimate response to the assertion, "learning to read music is probably a good idea," for more reasons than I could ever get into. I wish people could grasp this.
I wish people would grasp that not every statement needs to be followed up with a tired and predictable response that looks beyond the point people are actually making. Not every person who is legitimately considered a musician is a note reader. That apparently bothers some people so they get confrontational.
My point is that the non-readers, in so very many instances, ultimately rely upon the readers to do the heavy lifting. Long as we are on the Beatles, there is no doubt whatsoever that all the orchestrations on Pepper etc would never have occurred without George Martin (and later, whoever was working with Phil Spector) to write them, and cadres of fluent readers to play them.
To paraphrase John Lennon: imagine all the oboeists. Forced to improvise. imagine all the cellists. No notes before their eyes. Imagine all the woodwinds! Roaming without a score….
Really. If you think that the music composed by such people isn't the heavy lifting, I don't think we can have a meaningful conversation about this. Everything else involved there is the stuff I would file under the heading of great administrative skills that are contextually related to music. Without composition there's no need for any of it, and yes, recording something to tape or digital media is a form of transcription, too.
Have a great day, though!
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devnulljp
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of bay, brings us by a commodius vicus of recirculation back to
Howth Castle and Environs.
Sir Tristram, violer d'amores, fr'over the short sea, had passen-
core rearrived from North Armorica on this side the scraggy
isthmus of Europe Minor to wielderfight his penisolate war: nor
had topsawyer's rocks by the stream Oconee exaggerated themselse
to Laurens County's gorgios while they went doublin their mumper
all the time: nor avoice from afire bellowsed mishe mishe to
tauftauf thuartpeatrick: not yet, though venissoon after, had a
kidscad buttended a bland old isaac: not yet, though all's fair in
vanessy, were sosie sesthers wroth with twone nathandjoe. Rot a
peck of pa's malt had Jhem or Shen brewed by arclight and rory
end to the regginbrow was to be seen ringsome on the aquaface.
The fall (bababadalgharaghtakamminarronnkonnbronntonner-
ronntuonnthunntrovarrhounawnskawntoohoohoordenenthur-
nuk!) of a once wallstrait oldparr is retaled early in bed and later
on life down through all christian minstrelsy. The great fall of the
offwall entailed at such short notice the pftjschute of Finnegan,
erse solid man, that the humptyhillhead of humself prumptly sends
an unquiring one well to the west in quest of his tumptytumtoes:
and their upturnpikepointandplace is at the knock out in the park
where oranges have been laid to rust upon the green since dev-
linsfirst loved livvy.
Where the hell did I say that composing isn’t easy lifting?
You’re right; you and I cannot have meaningful conversation. Bye
Not a popular take in our current world of "words are violence", but in my opinion, being offended is on you. That is a choice you made. I can see being upset at being laughed at, but..... from what I could extract from that wall of text, seems to me like you were mostly offended by being called out for not knowing what the shirt you were wearing meant.
Not trying to claim I've never been offended, but if a snarky counter jockey was enough to do it I would simply not shop there any more.
Not trying to claim I've never been offended, but if a snarky counter jockey was enough to do it I would simply not shop there any more.
Smooth_bass88
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