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england?

i knew that wasn't going to go down well... :)
I've been all around the UK enough times, and that was just my experience of it. In all fairness, people tend to be more down to earth and nicer the further north you go, but for the most part, average british towns outside London and Brighton are depressing, whether you go north, south, east or west.
 
Me too, and my experience was the opposite.

Funny, dat.
Yeah - I can sort of understand saying London has stuff that the rest of the country doesn't, in several ways. But Brighton?

I've got nothing against Brighton by the way. But if you're going to divide all the towns and cities in the UK into Group A and Group B, it seems a little strange to me to have London and Brighton in one of those groups and everywhere else in the other. Just sayin'.

For the benefit of our American readers, this would be a little bit like dividing the USA into two by saying you liked Washington and Santa Monica but didn't like anywhere else.
 
jase, nice to see another durham bassist on here (do you ever go to the angel in durham?) . I think the music scene he is very good... depending on what you're looking for. theres a wealth of underground heavy metal, thrash and a few stoner rock bands around the northeast and loads in middlesborough. They're an acquired taste though. As has been said there's a pub just about everywhere you look that'll let you play a set, with a few main well known ones dotted around that'll get you noticed. The pain cost of living issue that i'm surprised hasn't been mentioned is petrol, you're looking at upwards of £1.20 per litre, that something stupid like $7 per gallon.
 
jase, nice to see another durham bassist on here (do you ever go to the angel in durham?) . I think the music scene he is very good... depending on what you're looking for. theres a wealth of underground heavy metal, thrash and a few stoner rock bands around the northeast and loads in middlesborough. They're an acquired taste though. As has been said there's a pub just about everywhere you look that'll let you play a set, with a few main well known ones dotted around that'll get you noticed. The pain cost of living issue that i'm surprised hasn't been mentioned is petrol, you're looking at upwards of £1.20 per litre, that something stupid like per gallon.

I love the Angel, nice little pub and their tropical beer garden makeover was epic! Used to live in Newcastle and played there once and the Fishtank a few times more.
 
My son lives in Brighton (I am a US based displaced Brit from London, so can see the good and bad of both sides of the pond), and it is the San Francisco of the UK. Gay Capital, fun fun fun, young and vibrant, good independent music scene, rains a lot...I love it.

Regarding the cost of living, especially as it pertains to music - equipment costs about the same (or if not more) in pounds as it does here in dollars. And I would hesitate to say the general cost of living in the UK leaves most people with less disposable income than here in the US, so you get hit from both sides.
 
My son lives in Brighton (I am a US based displaced Brit from London, so can see the good and bad of both sides of the pond), and it is the San Francisco of the UK. Gay Capital, fun fun fun, young and vibrant, good independent music scene, rains a lot...I love it.
I'd agree with a lot of that. But don't forget the size difference - Brighton is a pretty small fraction of the size of San Francisco!

In fact, Brighton (or Brighton and Hove, to be precise) only changed from town status to city status ten years ago, at the same time as Wolverhampton and also Inverness, both of which feature in this thread. How's that for a coincidence?
 
I live in Edinburgh, Scotland. Its cold, wet and I think the whole city has forgotten how to be happy. Its amazing how you can walk from a hugely affluent area into a much poorer area with ease. Oh and as I said earlier, its cold and wet.

Sadly the whole city appears to be propped up on students, and during the summer holidays, the easter holidays and the christmas holidays the place is a ghost town of younger kids, hoboes and tramps and successful middle aged people, none of whome ever give you the time of day. If you had a heart attack in the street a passer by will probably kick you for being an inconvenience. Brutal city trussed up by students and tourists (lots of them) because of a 500 year old image and ethos that largely doesn't fit the city any more. Its amazing how derelict buildings (including churches) can sit abandoned near the city centre because the real estate involved is too high and the Scottish executive seem somewhat feeble.

So how does the music scene work? I'm no expert but to me there are several camps that music sits in here in Edinboro. First of all the student fraternity organize their own gigs, and the tallent ranges all over the place from bad indie to well rehearsed indie. The students bring their own crowd and play charity gigs etc... though very few local Edin-bourghers (or actual Scottish people) seem to show up.

Next is the competent cover bands playing older rock stuff. I've heard very good versions of The Load and Strange Kind of Women being played by these older bands, though typically they have no stage presence and awkward dress sense (Hawaii shirts a-plenty).

Finally there is a sort of metal scene here. Seems to actually involve young local people (being emo/metal seems a real alternative to being a chav in Edinburgh thanks to even the poorest areas being acceptable in most other areas in Scotland) and this 'trickle down' effect seems to help this. Large private schools exist in Edinburgh and churn out a fair bunch of the art school fraternity so you can head out in Edinburgh and dance to Can and Kraftwerk if you really want to (and don't mind getting bashed into by people who look like they dressed themselves in a thrift store during a power cut).

Nothing amazingly lively.

I grew up in rural Scotlandshire, and there was very little there. The usual highschool band scene (you could fill a field with low end Ibanez guitars and Marshall MG50 amps if you wanted to) and the usual Greenday/Blink mixup though in some cases Ska and 'Joke' bands seemed to flourish.

There is a strong folk tradition here, ranging from people meeting in kitchens to people meeting in local halls etc... not wildly publicised outside of the area so you need to really be in to be in (so to speak). Pub rock and beer-money professional bands exist as well, even in the rural areas, though nothing amazing and no 'movement'.

This is far from complete, but hope I can help people who think Scotland is the land of milk and honey (and battles on open moorland).