I too am interested in the 1/2 scale Corelli 350A set... anyone out there tried them? Do they fit well? I play arco, do the Corellis bow well? thanks for any help you can provide...
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Double Bass Ergo megathread part II
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I too am interested in the 1/2 scale Corelli 350A set... anyone out there tried them? Do they fit well? I play arco, do the Corellis bow well? thanks for any help you can provide...
Mine came with Corellis in a trade so I'm not exactly sure as to which model #, but I can tell you they play/feel/sound like steel flatwounds of med-high tension .
No surprise. That's not much help is it.
No surprise. That's not much help is it.
Alright count me in! Forgive me if this is a little long, but it's a pretty cool story if you ask me, which of course you didn't so get over it lol!
I had moved away from New Orleans before Katrina and was living in Chattanooga running a landscape business trying to find musicians to play with. I found a KILLER deal on a carved top upright (~$1000 for a solid top!) and bought it up. I fell so in love with that thing and just having that huge body so intamently (no I can't spell thank you) tucked into my nether regions that I just knew there was no turning back. Then Katrina happened and I won't bog you down with the details but my lover was gone.
It took me awhile to rebuild the instruments I needed and I really did have to start at square one like I was 12 again. Oscar schmit hollow body guitar, pos Roland amp (that I actually wish i still had) ibanez bass etc etc. Not fun, but it did show me that it really is "all in the fingers not the gear" and ultimately made me a much better musician. Another upright was out of the question. Period.
So a few years ago my dad (who lives in Chattanooga still) called me with a little story. He was at the box-it place and saw this guy boxing up two beautiful sticks. I'm from a furniture making family so this naturally intrigued him (anything but a musician I might add) so he asked the guy *** is that? Oh its an electric upright bass. My pops knew how depressed I was not by trying to make crap instruments play/sound right (which I actually enjoyed in a challenging kinda way) but that i might not ever find such a quality upright for double what I paid for the one I lost much less affordably. So he got his card and info, left the boxing store and promptly lost it all. "look if you had seen this thing you would one!" he says, but i know EUB and wasn't interested. I'll build a warmoth frettless before I look like and sound like a douche on stage.
So recently he found out who it was, and yeah if you haven't guessed it's ergo!
So I've been a member of TB for a long time (changed my username a few times not realizing the profile doesn't carry over) and swear by fEarful cabs and have found a set up for electric bass that I feel NO need to change thanks some great advice and input here. So instantly I think, "well I've never heard of this and if it was worth while somebody on TB would've mentioned it!". Now I'm from the south and I know a few craftsmen that can spit out heirloom furniture like its flipping hamburgers and while he may live next door you'd never know he's selling million dollar tables in his barn(true story btw)! Looked it up on YouTube, find a couple bare bones videos. Do a search on TB (if you haven't don't download the iPhone version as it sucks and the Internet version doesn't work anymore) to no avail. So I thought let me send him an email and see what happens. We have had a blast over email! Everything from bass, speakers, cabs, guitars, trucks, dogs cats...... Let's just say I felt very comfortable with him long before I found this thread.
So here I sit having read these two threads EXCITED about a stick!
I'm just gonna get a four for now as I have the gigs that really need an at least looks like acoustic and later I'm gonna try and design and build him a cab in exchange for a six. I wish I could visit his shop but I'm just to busy right now, but my dad was kind enough to drop off a wad of cash for me and he seemed to really enjoy the short time he had with Jesse.
So I will try to post pics but again this stupid "app" has prevented that recently so I guess I will have to figure that out. Regardless I will keep y'all updated as things progress. I'm taking this one stock (although it might be a custom stain) so that I can tune a cab for him and when I order a six I may or may not ask for some custom stuff once I've had time with the OEM if you will. Anybody that has corresponded with Jesse can based on this post guess why we prob have hours of emails to read between the two of us.
So thanks ergo mega thread! I think it's the only one on tb with only ONE complaint and I think we can agree that it was a "fluke" without having any response from the guy since. But really? Since what '04 and one bad "mark"?! Find another TB thread with that record!
I had moved away from New Orleans before Katrina and was living in Chattanooga running a landscape business trying to find musicians to play with. I found a KILLER deal on a carved top upright (~$1000 for a solid top!) and bought it up. I fell so in love with that thing and just having that huge body so intamently (no I can't spell thank you) tucked into my nether regions that I just knew there was no turning back. Then Katrina happened and I won't bog you down with the details but my lover was gone.
It took me awhile to rebuild the instruments I needed and I really did have to start at square one like I was 12 again. Oscar schmit hollow body guitar, pos Roland amp (that I actually wish i still had) ibanez bass etc etc. Not fun, but it did show me that it really is "all in the fingers not the gear" and ultimately made me a much better musician. Another upright was out of the question. Period.
So a few years ago my dad (who lives in Chattanooga still) called me with a little story. He was at the box-it place and saw this guy boxing up two beautiful sticks. I'm from a furniture making family so this naturally intrigued him (anything but a musician I might add) so he asked the guy *** is that? Oh its an electric upright bass. My pops knew how depressed I was not by trying to make crap instruments play/sound right (which I actually enjoyed in a challenging kinda way) but that i might not ever find such a quality upright for double what I paid for the one I lost much less affordably. So he got his card and info, left the boxing store and promptly lost it all. "look if you had seen this thing you would one!" he says, but i know EUB and wasn't interested. I'll build a warmoth frettless before I look like and sound like a douche on stage.
So recently he found out who it was, and yeah if you haven't guessed it's ergo!
So I've been a member of TB for a long time (changed my username a few times not realizing the profile doesn't carry over) and swear by fEarful cabs and have found a set up for electric bass that I feel NO need to change thanks some great advice and input here. So instantly I think, "well I've never heard of this and if it was worth while somebody on TB would've mentioned it!". Now I'm from the south and I know a few craftsmen that can spit out heirloom furniture like its flipping hamburgers and while he may live next door you'd never know he's selling million dollar tables in his barn(true story btw)! Looked it up on YouTube, find a couple bare bones videos. Do a search on TB (if you haven't don't download the iPhone version as it sucks and the Internet version doesn't work anymore) to no avail. So I thought let me send him an email and see what happens. We have had a blast over email! Everything from bass, speakers, cabs, guitars, trucks, dogs cats...... Let's just say I felt very comfortable with him long before I found this thread.
So here I sit having read these two threads EXCITED about a stick!
I'm just gonna get a four for now as I have the gigs that really need an at least looks like acoustic and later I'm gonna try and design and build him a cab in exchange for a six. I wish I could visit his shop but I'm just to busy right now, but my dad was kind enough to drop off a wad of cash for me and he seemed to really enjoy the short time he had with Jesse.
So I will try to post pics but again this stupid "app" has prevented that recently so I guess I will have to figure that out. Regardless I will keep y'all updated as things progress. I'm taking this one stock (although it might be a custom stain) so that I can tune a cab for him and when I order a six I may or may not ask for some custom stuff once I've had time with the OEM if you will. Anybody that has corresponded with Jesse can based on this post guess why we prob have hours of emails to read between the two of us.
So thanks ergo mega thread! I think it's the only one on tb with only ONE complaint and I think we can agree that it was a "fluke" without having any response from the guy since. But really? Since what '04 and one bad "mark"?! Find another TB thread with that record!
I forgot to mention that when I receive my four I'm going to build a pool cue type case for it and the stand. My goal is for it to still sling over my shoulder with my EB so that it doesn't add an extra trip to and from the car. Since I'm going to experiment with cab designs I plan on at least a few sheets of cheap ply wood to have on hand (cheap 1/2", light and with duratex paint plenty durable) so once I get the fit right I'll be happy to provide easy instructions. That's all. Thank you this adrian
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This works great for my 4-string (with a little padding), and I would think it would work for a 5-string... you might need to cut out part of the neck-rest bit:
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note: I put a small weight at the foot of the case because the Stagg bass is longer than the Ergo, and the case tended to tip forward when I carried it.
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note: I put a small weight at the foot of the case because the Stagg bass is longer than the Ergo, and the case tended to tip forward when I carried it.
I've been trying to find out for years what the NS Design Polar (TM) pickup system does. For something so simple, it's not easy to find. It turns out it's been discussed many times, just not under NS Design's name for it.
Here's the ending configuration of my Ergo 7-string electric cello. I'll be recording a show with it July 3 so I can share with you folks finally.
* Replace the built-in jack with a stereo jack. Very inexpensive part, screws right into the existing jack plate.
* Wire the two built-in pickups, under the feet of the bridge, _out of phase_. In other words, twist together red from one and black from the other, then twist together the other remaining pair of wires.
* Get a set of K&K Big Twin pickups. Clip off the output jack they provide, but leave plenty of wire. Super glue each pickup as close as possible to one foot of the bridge; one right above the left foot, one right above the right foot. Twist together the shield wires and the hot wires (they were white on mine).
Now, wire
* one red/black pair of wires, from the internal pickups, to the jack's "tip" terminal.
* one white pair of wires, from the K&K pickups, to the jack's "ring" terminal.
* One pair of uninsulated shield wires, from the K&K pickups, AND the other red/black pair of wires, to the jack's "sleeve" terminal.
Of course, you have to trim the wires first so they'll fit into the jack cavity.
Now you have two separate outputs.
* The "tip" set works better with arco, because wiring the under-bridge-foot pickups out of phase senses mostly the rocking back and forth of the bridge. Much more resonant tone.
* The "ring" set works better pizz. If you wire the second set of pickups as close as possible to the feet, on the edges of the bridge, the sound isn't much different from the original set of internal pickups.
I preamp this with a K&K Dual Channel Pro preamp; I have separate gain and tone controls for each channel, and a user-controllable volume on the outside of the preamp. Only requires a single 9V battery. I stick it right to my instrument above the output jack, not with velcro, but with the similar-looking adhesive strips that have a bunch of tiny plastic pegs on them. It holds it more securely than velcro.
You can use either set of pickups alone, or mix between them with the two volume controls, _or_, if you use both 1/4" outputs, you can get two separate signals out, one for each pickup. I use the last option to plug into the guitar and aux inputs of a Line6 Pod X3 Live; as I switch patches, it selects which pickup to use by controlling which input it uses.
You could use other preamping schemes, of course.
This doesn't just make me "kind of happy" with the sound of my Ergo, it makes me overjoyed with it. It's a matter of taste whether any individual enjoys this pickup configuration; if you never use the bow, and enjoy the sound as it comes from Ergo, don't bother. But I think people that use the bow would really enjoy this.
So I retract any earlier indications that I was less than happy with the sound. Pizz work always sounded great, now that the bow sounds just as good I am amazed.
Here's the ending configuration of my Ergo 7-string electric cello. I'll be recording a show with it July 3 so I can share with you folks finally.
* Replace the built-in jack with a stereo jack. Very inexpensive part, screws right into the existing jack plate.
* Wire the two built-in pickups, under the feet of the bridge, _out of phase_. In other words, twist together red from one and black from the other, then twist together the other remaining pair of wires.
* Get a set of K&K Big Twin pickups. Clip off the output jack they provide, but leave plenty of wire. Super glue each pickup as close as possible to one foot of the bridge; one right above the left foot, one right above the right foot. Twist together the shield wires and the hot wires (they were white on mine).
Now, wire
* one red/black pair of wires, from the internal pickups, to the jack's "tip" terminal.
* one white pair of wires, from the K&K pickups, to the jack's "ring" terminal.
* One pair of uninsulated shield wires, from the K&K pickups, AND the other red/black pair of wires, to the jack's "sleeve" terminal.
Of course, you have to trim the wires first so they'll fit into the jack cavity.
Now you have two separate outputs.
* The "tip" set works better with arco, because wiring the under-bridge-foot pickups out of phase senses mostly the rocking back and forth of the bridge. Much more resonant tone.
* The "ring" set works better pizz. If you wire the second set of pickups as close as possible to the feet, on the edges of the bridge, the sound isn't much different from the original set of internal pickups.
I preamp this with a K&K Dual Channel Pro preamp; I have separate gain and tone controls for each channel, and a user-controllable volume on the outside of the preamp. Only requires a single 9V battery. I stick it right to my instrument above the output jack, not with velcro, but with the similar-looking adhesive strips that have a bunch of tiny plastic pegs on them. It holds it more securely than velcro.
You can use either set of pickups alone, or mix between them with the two volume controls, _or_, if you use both 1/4" outputs, you can get two separate signals out, one for each pickup. I use the last option to plug into the guitar and aux inputs of a Line6 Pod X3 Live; as I switch patches, it selects which pickup to use by controlling which input it uses.
You could use other preamping schemes, of course.
This doesn't just make me "kind of happy" with the sound of my Ergo, it makes me overjoyed with it. It's a matter of taste whether any individual enjoys this pickup configuration; if you never use the bow, and enjoy the sound as it comes from Ergo, don't bother. But I think people that use the bow would really enjoy this.
So I retract any earlier indications that I was less than happy with the sound. Pizz work always sounded great, now that the bow sounds just as good I am amazed.
My Ergo 7-string cello was made with a 5/16 brass insert to screw an NS Design shoulder harness into. He can indeed do this.
You're looking for one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/E-Z-LOK-Threaded-Insert-Thread/dp/B0025PLFU2/ref=sr_1_1?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1340519494&sr=1-1&keywords=5%2F16+threaded+insert
Measuring how far up the bass it should go, is the only issue here. Perhaps ask Mr. Blue to calculate the fraction up from the bottom he put mine, to scale it to a bass size. Or measure an NS bass of similar dimensions.
He just drills a hole, and uses polyurethane or similar adhesive to put this socket into the bass.
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but I want to document my work for others. An additional mod I made when using that K&K preamp with my dual pickup pair configuration, is to solder some filter caps across the output jack for each channel of the preamp. To add a low-pass filter, or hi-cut, or whatever you want to call it. I found that there was so much treble that I had to operate with the treble band of the K&K preamp turned almost all the way down, and that by soldering those capacitors in I was able to regain the use of the full range of the treble trim-pot inside the preamp, instead of keeping it all the way down.
It was hard to work inside the preamp. I just ended up using some sandpaper to rough the little spring-metal contacts of the output jacks, and solder directly to them. It's not as good a connection as something soldered to the PC board, but if it's treated gently should work sufficiently well.
It's the _outer_ two contacts, not the middle contact, of each jack, that you're interested in soldering caps between.
I'm sorry that I dont' remember the values. There are various low-pass filter calculators that you can find on the Internet, feed the output impedance listed in the K&K manual into the calculator and you'll see at what frequency the low-pass filter starts.
It was hard to work inside the preamp. I just ended up using some sandpaper to rough the little spring-metal contacts of the output jacks, and solder directly to them. It's not as good a connection as something soldered to the PC board, but if it's treated gently should work sufficiently well.
It's the _outer_ two contacts, not the middle contact, of each jack, that you're interested in soldering caps between.
I'm sorry that I dont' remember the values. There are various low-pass filter calculators that you can find on the Internet, feed the output impedance listed in the K&K manual into the calculator and you'll see at what frequency the low-pass filter starts.
Note to self: don't shave down ergo bridge from bottom 2mm it will distort like hell. Also don't try carving out string grooves from the top with a wood carving knife; you'll chip the wood & it looks like ****. Now you have to buy a replacement dumb ass.
Is that the pickups distorting or is it excessive fingerboard rattle?
If you ever try again, needle files are the way to go for that kind of thing.
Unfortunately it's phone video/audio so it's crappy quality, but it might give some idea of how the 7-string cello works:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTy6pTZSLiA
I made a few more minor tweaks to the pickup arrangement today, with complete success. I have a show coming up this Saturday which I can probably get some better audio from.
It's unfortunate that the low end wasn't picked up well by the phone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTy6pTZSLiA
I made a few more minor tweaks to the pickup arrangement today, with complete success. I have a show coming up this Saturday which I can probably get some better audio from.
It's unfortunate that the low end wasn't picked up well by the phone.
Very nice! I'd love to hear you playing it alone though, especially with a bow. If you get a chance....
I've been thinking about getting an Ergo in a few months. I could go either way (bass or cello model that is) but I play in a church band and a cello would better compliment what we already have so I am leaning in that direction. Yours is the only video or sound clip of an Ergo cello that I have been able to find online.
Jesse Blue has kindly chatted with me about this and I will mention a couple of things that he told me. Many of you will already know what I am about to say but other newbies like me would not. As I say I am interested in a cello mostly and since I play my bass guitar tuned in fifths an octave down from a cello the first thought I had was why not get an Ergo cello in a 34 inch scale so it can use BG strings and sit in the same octave I am used to? Evidently Jesse gets this question a lot. The answer is that if you intend to bow (which I do) then BG strings do not sound right when bowed. Opinions could vary on that I suppose but I am going with his, scratch the 34 inch "bass cello" idea.
In its natural octave a cello is still a bass instrument, kind of where a baritone bass guitar might sit. Plus when the church uses a string section it could use a cello more than a double bass so the cello is probably what I would get. However, if I do decide to get a double bass what about the tuning? I started tuning my BG to CGDA because I'd read that the late Red Mitchell did that and a small but growing number of other double bassists have followed him down that road. So these days there are fifths tuned double bass string sets available and Ergo's string supplier makes one. Jesse will ship your Ergo bass with CGDA strings in place of the standard strings. You just have to pay the difference in the string cost to him which is about $65 right now. It could vary in the future, up or down, I would suppose. So there's an option for those who are interested.
Are there any other Ergo cello owners here? I'd love to hear what you think of the instrument. I have absolutely no experience with a cello or playing with a bow, so I especially love to hear from anyone, cellist or bassist, who's made that leap from BG to a bowed string instrument. The closet I've come is that years ago I played a fretless BG and I hope to have a fretless BG up and running again in a few weeks to start to ease into it.
Ken
Finally registered after lurking here for a while. I've got an Ergo 6-string cello, F-C-G-D-A-E, had it for under 2 years I think.
I play bass guitar at church (been playing guitar & bass guitar for ~20 years), and pull out the Ergo during "acoustic" sets or for specials. I play it both as a plucked "upright bass" and bowed, though I haven't really played it often enough to consider myself anywhere above basic skill.
Positives:
I found cello really easy to learn, if you're good with intervals. Since you already play in 5ths, you'll have absolutely no problem at all. Go watch this guy to pick up the basics: The man truly earned his bowtie.
The Ergo is the classiest looking instrument out there. I really didn't want the wannabe flying-V, candy apple red, techno-goofy looking other options. The "classic" finish is absolutely beautiful, with a deep golden shimmer coming out of the wood grain itself.
It's incredibly portable. I carry mine in a soft electric guitar gig bag, with tons of room to spare. This also has to do with the simple design, without cello body-sized flares sticking out of it.
GREAT plucked bass sound, you can get a very respectable bowed acoustic cello-like sound out of it if you spend enough time with it. Played completely straight-through, the bowed sound is kind of stale and nasal/honky. I've got a Line6 guitar effects board, put it through the Fender Bassman model, use the parametric EQ to notch out the 'nasal' sound and strengthen the bass, and add some strong but fast-decaying room reverb to emulate the body. I use 2 different board settings for plucked vs bowed, just differing in EQ iirc. It sounds quite close to authentic, at least to my "not really a cellist" ears, and definitely better than all the other name brands I've heard on professional Youtube videos. I've received nothing but positive wonderment from the sound guys about the tone that a stringed stick puts out.
Negatives
From what I've gathered online, most of Jesse's work is great, but every once in a while when there's a dud he still seems to ship it out as best as possible. Keep in mind that you are buying a ~$600 instrument in a field of $2500+ competitors. Mine's got some build quality issues that I'm quite disappointed with, but have not brought them up with Jesse yet, since it would involve at least shipping costs and indeterminate time without the instrument. I've read good things about recent customer service from him, though. My neck shape is too triangular at the nut which causes a lot of buzz on the center 2 strings and the strings beside those are difficult to reach with the bow without hitting their neighbors. Adjusting the bridge wouldn't fix it (it would then also become triangular and line up the strings unreachably to an even worse degree), so I really think the neck needs to be brought down and reshaped to fix it. Most people get a great instrument; on occasion people get a great but flawed instrument.
It's hard to bow across the full 6 strings. Cello rosin is a bit too sticky for the high E string (sounds scratchy unless you're really light & smooth), and not quite sticky enough for the low F string (get swishing sounds & harmonics unless you crank down hard & flat). However, this could be mitigated as you get better, maybe have a better bow than I do, or put better strings on than the inexpensive defaults.
More of a playing tip than a negative: Because it's really light, it's easy to bow it too hard. You need to maintain a fairly light touch to keep the sound nice, and to keep it from bouncing around when the stand wingnut isn't completely cranked solid. If you play too hard, the tone gets a lot worse but it doesn't get that much louder, making it hard to realize what you're doing wrong. This means you're usually playing with a really "hot" level, which can make it hard to be clean.
I play bass guitar at church (been playing guitar & bass guitar for ~20 years), and pull out the Ergo during "acoustic" sets or for specials. I play it both as a plucked "upright bass" and bowed, though I haven't really played it often enough to consider myself anywhere above basic skill.
Positives:
I found cello really easy to learn, if you're good with intervals. Since you already play in 5ths, you'll have absolutely no problem at all. Go watch this guy to pick up the basics: The man truly earned his bowtie.
The Ergo is the classiest looking instrument out there. I really didn't want the wannabe flying-V, candy apple red, techno-goofy looking other options. The "classic" finish is absolutely beautiful, with a deep golden shimmer coming out of the wood grain itself.
It's incredibly portable. I carry mine in a soft electric guitar gig bag, with tons of room to spare. This also has to do with the simple design, without cello body-sized flares sticking out of it.
GREAT plucked bass sound, you can get a very respectable bowed acoustic cello-like sound out of it if you spend enough time with it. Played completely straight-through, the bowed sound is kind of stale and nasal/honky. I've got a Line6 guitar effects board, put it through the Fender Bassman model, use the parametric EQ to notch out the 'nasal' sound and strengthen the bass, and add some strong but fast-decaying room reverb to emulate the body. I use 2 different board settings for plucked vs bowed, just differing in EQ iirc. It sounds quite close to authentic, at least to my "not really a cellist" ears, and definitely better than all the other name brands I've heard on professional Youtube videos. I've received nothing but positive wonderment from the sound guys about the tone that a stringed stick puts out.
Negatives
From what I've gathered online, most of Jesse's work is great, but every once in a while when there's a dud he still seems to ship it out as best as possible. Keep in mind that you are buying a ~$600 instrument in a field of $2500+ competitors. Mine's got some build quality issues that I'm quite disappointed with, but have not brought them up with Jesse yet, since it would involve at least shipping costs and indeterminate time without the instrument. I've read good things about recent customer service from him, though. My neck shape is too triangular at the nut which causes a lot of buzz on the center 2 strings and the strings beside those are difficult to reach with the bow without hitting their neighbors. Adjusting the bridge wouldn't fix it (it would then also become triangular and line up the strings unreachably to an even worse degree), so I really think the neck needs to be brought down and reshaped to fix it. Most people get a great instrument; on occasion people get a great but flawed instrument.
It's hard to bow across the full 6 strings. Cello rosin is a bit too sticky for the high E string (sounds scratchy unless you're really light & smooth), and not quite sticky enough for the low F string (get swishing sounds & harmonics unless you crank down hard & flat). However, this could be mitigated as you get better, maybe have a better bow than I do, or put better strings on than the inexpensive defaults.
More of a playing tip than a negative: Because it's really light, it's easy to bow it too hard. You need to maintain a fairly light touch to keep the sound nice, and to keep it from bouncing around when the stand wingnut isn't completely cranked solid. If you play too hard, the tone gets a lot worse but it doesn't get that much louder, making it hard to realize what you're doing wrong. This means you're usually playing with a really "hot" level, which can make it hard to be clean.
Thanks for the response. You, like Jesse, have given me a lot to think about. I made the mistake of mentioning this to the friend I take after lunch walks with at work. His wife owns a violin shop so he thinks I should get an acoustic cello, he hasn't gone so far as to say what kind of deal she will give me though....
Ken
Ken
The incredible portability (even vs other electrics) and ability to practice quietly while still having a decent sound trounces having an acoustic cello in my opinion & situation. For most live mixed-band gigs, the difference in sound will be minimal if you've got a reasonably-featured EQ/reverb. If you're going to record CDs, or play in a purely acoustic string group, then think about the acoustic. Again, my opinion & situation.
Also from what I've seen, I think you'll pay about the same price for a non-junk acoustic cello as an Ergo. There are plenty of stories about unfixable issues with cheap cellos. I'd imagine a $200 acoustic cello is somewhat comparable to a $50 Wal-Mart electric guitar kit.
Also from what I've seen, I think you'll pay about the same price for a non-junk acoustic cello as an Ergo. There are plenty of stories about unfixable issues with cheap cellos. I'd imagine a $200 acoustic cello is somewhat comparable to a $50 Wal-Mart electric guitar kit.
Just got this amazing Ergo bass in blue dye. Thanks so much Jesse!!
One minute sound example from first day (I've found 20 new tones since this little recording, so more to come):
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(bowed from 1:00 to 1:05)
One minute sound example from first day (I've found 20 new tones since this little recording, so more to come):
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(bowed from 1:00 to 1:05)
Hot damn, this Midnight Blue Ergo is a monster!!
http://soundcloud.com/john-richards/freedom-is-a-dirty-word
This thing fills the low end like a 5-mile deep ocean trench.
http://soundcloud.com/john-richards/freedom-is-a-dirty-word
This thing fills the low end like a 5-mile deep ocean trench.
Just purchased an Ergo Cello that will be arriving this week. http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f144/fs-ergo-instruments-4-string-electric-cello-904036/
I'm super excited about it. Not sure what strings are on it. He said they are the original ones that came with it (red labels perhaps?)
My amp is a Rogue RB-50B that I got for free from a friend, so I may need some sort of preamp and am open to suggestions. I like the idea of going with a looper like boss rc2 or zoom b3 so I can play over recordings of myself, but am not sure.
I read through the entire megathread and only saw a few Ergo cello folks here, but either way I am excited for it to get here, and will share my thoughts about it.
I'm super excited about it. Not sure what strings are on it. He said they are the original ones that came with it (red labels perhaps?)
My amp is a Rogue RB-50B that I got for free from a friend, so I may need some sort of preamp and am open to suggestions. I like the idea of going with a looper like boss rc2 or zoom b3 so I can play over recordings of myself, but am not sure.
I read through the entire megathread and only saw a few Ergo cello folks here, but either way I am excited for it to get here, and will share my thoughts about it.
