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ESP or something else?

Jan 6, 2022
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Two posts in one day. That's not usually me, but hey, I got alot to think about.

Recently I've started thinking about getting a new bass (relatively cheap), that I could happily take out on gigs and be less worried about losing / damaging. Also I feel like my P bass, which I've been playing so far, doesn't work so great on the entire catalogue of songs we usually play.

I noticed ESP basses quite a long time ago. Actually an ESP could've been my first "real" bass, but instead I chose a Warwick Corvette. Now I was thinking about getting an ESP as a bass to play on gigs.

My reason for this post is twofold. For one I would like to hear your opinions on ESP basses. Tell me everything you experienced. All the positives and ofcourse all the negatives. But beyond that, I would also like to know if some of you might have another brand that I could take a closer look at. For example whenever I heard an Ibanez bass online, I was very displeased with the sound. Might just be bad luck that the respective players were dialing in a tone I didn't like, but as of right now I would never buy an Ibanez. Is that a mistake?

I know that I should probably get out to a music store and play some of those basses, but that's very difficult for me to do right now and I'm more concerned with the overall quality of these brands. I know that ESP (LTD) has a great reputation for their six strings. So maybe the basses are pretty decent too? I am looking for a bass that doesn't fight me basically and will have a pretty long life, maybe even with a little abuse.

I can also add that I can work on the frets of any bass myself, but I would rather not perform any greater work beyond that.
 
LTD is ESP's Asian made imprint, and the versions that are the most available. True ESP basses are rare and not cheap.

I've played a few LTDs and found them to be very decent for the money. I had a Vintage 214 PJ for a few months that was very nice for how low the price was.

They make good stuff. They are mostly knock offs of other people’s designs, but reasonable knock offs none the less.
 
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that I could happily take out on gigs and be less worried about losing / damaging. Also I feel like my P bass, which I've been playing so far, doesn't work so great on the entire catalogue of songs we usually play.
Losing it ??? HHAAA HAA being funny !!
I used to play at this crap hole that was also part open mic. I bought a Sterling Ray4 for this. I have bought & sold several other 4's but have held on to the ray4..
LTD? I still own a LTD B205, korean made. Really good bass. Generally good basses. Good bang for the buck.. I have owned 3. Look for a used one, they have bad resale. I had a D4, I wish I got the B4-E. But I am not a big fan of neck-thru's.. The double humbucker active EQ is the way to go on a LTD. I am still looking for another 4, may consider the B4-E.
P bass not working on entire catalog of songs?? WHAT ??? you will get rolled for that comment !!!!
 
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Losing it ??? HHAAA HAA being funny !!
I used to play at this crap hole that was also part open mic. I bought a Sterling Ray4 for this. I have bought & sold several other 4's but have held on to the ray4..
LTD? I still own a LTD B205, korean made. Really good bass. Generally good basses. Good bang for the buck.. I have owned 3. Look for a used one, they have bad resale. I had a D4, I wish I got the B4-E. But I am not a big fan of neck-thru's.. The double humbucker active EQ is the way to go on a LTD. I am still looking for another 4, may consider the B4-E.
P bass not working on entire catalog of songs?? WHAT ??? you will get rolled for that comment !!!!
I probably meant to write stolen instead of losing... Well, brain sometimes can't tell the fingers what to do. Double humbucker was what I was looking at too. Mainly because I don't have a bass like that yet, so it would fill that niche and I bet they're hella versatile.
 
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I've had a B-204 for several years now and it's been kinda fabulous for the price point. They will cover a fairly wide tonal range with the stock electronics and it's always helped me sound better than I am. Comfortable, easy to play, looks pricier than it is. Resale does seem to suck on these so definitely consider the used market if you're looking for a bargain. Mine was so cheap 2nd hand that I couldn't NOT buy it!

Edit: Checked after posting and mine is an older B-304 (active EMG pickups, 3-band EQ, neck-thru construction) not the B-204
 
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