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Essential Frank Zappa

I love Zappa, but that's the stuff I specifically don't like, because it's too weird.:hyper:

I like Hot Rats, Waka/Jawaka and all the Jazz and orchestral stuff.

See, I'm wired the other way... I think that the rawness of the tunes (in addition to the copious amounts of strange in the production) makes for a much more rewarding experience.

But that's why FZ's so good-he hit everything!
 
Been listening to joe's garage and I'm fairly new to zappa stuff since seeing his son play his stuff the other year. Its an overwhelming library and could use some guidance, anyone lend a hand?

It's impossible to sort out. If I remember right he recorded about 40 studio album, plus at least twice as many live albums (which contain tons of stuff not available in studio albums), and then there's a good bunch of posthumous collections of previously unreleased material. The fact is, his music is very different at various times, so comparing Absolutely Free with Overnight Sensation with Yellow Shark with Jazz from Hell is quite impossible.

You could just check a music review websites such as www.allmusic.com and start from the highest-rated albums. Or you could of course pick one "best of" such as Strictly Commercial (for the more pop-rock side) or Strictly Genteel (for the orchestral-jazz side), but I'm not sure it's the best thing to do.

Personally I prefer his most accessible albums: Apostrophe, Overnight Sensation, You Are What You Is, Joe's Garage...
 
I rediscovered early Mother Of Invention, We Are Only In It for The Money. What a great 60's time capsule & still bizarre today.

People also overlook Weasels Ripped MY Flesh-another great Zappa record. Uncle Meat is not bad either. King Kong is a Great Song.
 
Just a few of my faves:

Hot Rats
The Grand Wazoo
One Size Fits All
Apostrophe
Overnight Sensation
Roxy & Elsewhere
You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 2 "The Helsinki Concert"
Shut up And Play Yer Guitar Vol. 1-3
The Best Band You Never Heard In Your Life
Make A Jazz Noise Here
Lather
Guitar
 
I think a good compilation is not such a bad introduction. Many years ago, this is how I got into Zappa and started working my way through his erratic musical expanse. I'm now a bona fide Zappa fanatic.

Specifically, it was Strictly Commercial (which i rented on CD from the local library and instantly ripped onto cassette... ahem). I think it has enough of a taste of each era to give you an idea of what you would like to explore in more detail. It even gives you specific albums to investigate.
 
I'd love to see them with Terry Bozzio or Napoleon Murphy Brock. I know that they've both done previous ZPZ tours.

I saw them with Ray White a couple of years ago. Regardless of which guest musicians they may have, Dweezil and his band are one of the best live bands i've ever seen.
 
I saw them with Ray White a couple of years ago. Regardless of which guest musicians they may have, Dweezil and his band are one of the best live bands i've ever seen.

Oh yes. I'm going to steal (and clean up to conform to TB rules) a review my wife wrote for her FB page:

Mrs Fluffy said:
A month ago my handsome prince [...] told me, "reserve the weekend of March 7th for a little road trip and pack your overnight bag." I thought maybe a trip on the 1, up or down the coast to a National Park, maybe Santa Cruz or some beach thing, who knows? Saturday came along (this past weekend) and we loaded up the car and drove over the Golden Gate bridge north north north to Santa Rosa where we checked into a hotel, ate an awesome dinner delivered to our room, and then got ready to drive a bit further north.

This time [UncleFluffy] drove and I'm glad he did, because if I was driving when I saw the yellow-illuminated letters outside the concert hall reading "ZAPPA PLAYS ZAPPA" I would have surged off the road. Holy ****. I'd heard about this show Dweezil Zappa puts on, playing a set of his Dad's music with a few of the original bandmates (some from Mothers of Invention, some from other tours), but never thought I'd be going to see them. I'm busy these days and don't get to see enuf shows.

Ladies and Gentlemen. I don't give a flying donkey **** if you don't know/like/respect the music of Frank Zappa. It doesn't matter because there is NO WAY you could go to this show and not leave without being in awe of the level of stamina, talent, and fun that was up on that stage. I am very confident about that and I know what you're thinking. Yeah, it always bugs me too when kids try to cash-in on their parents' fame, especially if the kids have no talent - sorry Kelly Osbourne/Wilson-Phillips/etc.. But, that's not the case with Dweezil. Looks like he seriously put in the time to play and conduct in the manner of his father - apparently requiring him to re-learn how to play guitar and learn the albums chronologically one-by-one...if you have no idea of how many songs that is, check Frank's discography.

Dweezil's got seven musicians with him (not including Scott Thunes who stepped on for 'Willy the Pimp' only - Frank's bassist from '81 to '88). One of them that did the whole set was Ray White, who played with Zappa from 1976 on, this dude had so much energy. I was most impressed with Shiela Gonzalez who played like 47 instruments and was obviously recruited to replace 47 other musicians she was that good. They played a 3 hour set list and remained totally amped and energetic the entire time - I was tired FOR THEM with the amount of work that set required, and I found myself just sitting there with my mouth wide open totally inspired by how good it all was. This goes in my top 5 shows ever and will most likely stay there. They played some of the regular hits like "Peaches en Regalia" and "Inca Roads", but then some randomly AWESOME stuff like "Billy the Mountain"...which may be better to see live than listen to on a recording and wonder what the hell is happening. The best thing about it was that it wasn't just a 'show' in the sense that people play music and peace out. These guys were all having fun, and it was obvious, and that made it so much better.

The only people who were not satisfied with the show were a couple of ******** parents (again, how I hate [self-righteous] parents and believe there should be a competency exam in order to get your reproductive system installed) who didn't realize that some of the lyrics would have PROFANITY in them. Whah? How could you BE SURPRISED that there is profanity at the concert of a guy whose music includes titles such as 'The Illinois Enema Bandit' and "Willie the Pimp"??? I laughed at the idea of explaining the phrase "ram it up your poop-shoot" to my kids after that...but then again knowing me, my kids would be front and center at that show, and already have a concept of what curses are, and when they are used - and already have developed the capacity to break those rules. Yeah, so those people stormed out like they thought Zappa would be a trip to the ****ing symphony or the ballet. Alas, it was obvious that the kids didn't want to go!

Beacuse it was that good. I was amazed, astounded, inspired, and all of those other words. After the show, the whole group just hung out on stage and talked to people. Put simply: "A mountain is something you don't want to **** with." IF YOU CAN, SEE THIS SHOW!

For those of you who know Zappa, they played the following set list:

Cletus Awreetus Awrightus, Inca Roads, Village Of The Sun, Echidna's Arf, Don't You Ever Wash That Thing?, Billy The Mountain, Flakes, Broken Hearts Are For ********, Bamboozled By Love, King Kong, Lumpy Gravy, G-Spot Tornado, Why Don'tcha Do Me Right?, Penguin In Bondage, Willy The Pimp* Outside Now, Peaches En Regalia, Illinois Enema Bandit, E: The Torture Never Stops (* = Scott Thunes: Bass)

I'm thinking that the upcoming tour will be at least as good. We've already got our tickets.
 
It's all good if you look at it in it's entirety. Read "The Real Frank Zappa book", put's the whole catalog in perspective. Personal faves include, "Roxy and Elswhere", The Grand Wazoo", You Can't do that on Stage Anymore, Vol. 3", and "The Best Band You never Heard in Your Life"...
 
1. Best Band You Never Heard in your Life.

I saw the band on the tour that these recordings are from. The band was set to play 10 dates in the US, got to Europe for a summer, then come back and do several more months in the US, but Frank disbanded in Europe. It was his last tour. One of those 10 dates was the Orpheum in Boston where I saw the band. My God!!! They were incredible - 5 horns and and six or seven other guys. The band was incredible....one minute they were wailing through 'City of Tiny Lights', the next they were playing Oliver Nelson's 'Stolen Moments' (for real...like a real Jazz thing), then Stravinsky's 'Histoit du Soldat'. That concert really screwed my head up for a while.

The other time I saw him was in 1984 in NYC at the concert which came out as 'Does Humor Belong in Music?'....I don't know....me and Frank only got together when a record was coming out =:-)

I'd start with some things from several eras:

Uncle Meat
Just Another Band from LA
Apostrophe/Overnight Sensation
Grand Wazoo
Roxy
You Can't Do That Onstage Anymore (#2 Live in Helsinki -- this is nasty)
Live in NY
The Best Band You Never Heard
Make a Jazz Noise Here
Yellow Shark (this is Frank's last public appearance with the Ensemble Modern, a German new music group. It's his classical stuff, played live in concert, with Frank conducting some pieces, played by musicians who were really into doing it right (unlike the LSO)...the Ensemble actually approached Zappa about playing and recording his music, not the other way around...and it shows!)

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