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Ethical question about a tree in my yard.

There is an enormous cottonwood tree in my backyard. For about a month, every summer, it constantly sheds blobs of cotton that float around the entire neighborhood and get on and in everything. It looks a lot like snow except that it doesn't melt.

Several of my neighbors have asked me to cut it down because it's a real nuisance. It gets inside their cars and in their houses. It clogs up window unit air conditioners.

I agree with them. I fully understand their annoyance. In fact, recently I was sitting on my back porch and I actually inhaled one of the floating cotton blobs and it went down into my lungs and I was coughing for about 10 minutes.

I looked into cutting the tree down and the lowest quote I got was $4,500 because of its gargantuan size and other issues like difficult accessibility and close proximity to multiple buildings and power lines.

I was told by one tree removal company that he can't remember seeing a tree more difficult to remove than this one. He quoted me $7,000, I assume because he really didn't want to do the job so he quoted an inflated price, expecting me to reject it.

The bottom line is, there's just no way that I can afford $4,500 right now. In fact, I've got a pile of medical bills I'm struggling to pay off and I've been selling nearly all of my non necessary personal possessions that have any value at all in order to get back in the black ink again. Spending that amount of money out of my pocket would literally ruin me, right now.

Nevertheless, last week I talked to two of my neighbors who complained about the tree and I made them an offer. I said that I'd agree to remove the tree and pay $1,500 toward the cost, if they'd contribute the remaining $3,000.

They both rejected my offer and told me that they weren't going to pay anything and it was my legal responsibility to pay for it.

I consulted my lawyer and he told me that since the tree was healthy and there was no reason to believe that it might imminently fall on someone's house or other property, then I can legally leave it up. The fact that it sheds cotton is just part of the nature of the tree and I don't have any legal obligation to mitigate that.

I do have to admit an ulterior motive, here. The house I live in was built by my grandparents in the 1930s, when they immigrated here from Canada. The tree was planted in 1942, specifically to commemorate the birth of my father. I wish to keep the tree, partly for sentimental reasons. but also, because it provides a lot of shade in the summer and it keeps my house significantly cooler than if it wasn’t there. And it looks cool. It dwarfs every other tree in the entire neighborhood.

My question is, can anyone suggest a way out of this dilemma? Frankly, if it wasn't for the cost, I'd agree to take the tree down. I don't want to be a bad neighbor and this cottonwood is genuinely a nuisance. If I was my neighbor, I'd be really annoyed by it, but I just don't see any reasonable path forward where everybody is happy.

It’s an easy solution.

Tell them you’re willing to cut it down, but they pay 100%.

They had their chance to get a deal. It’s their problem, not your’s.
 
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Cottonwood trees have two issues:

1) The "cotton" is highly flammable - in certain circumstances, that can be a hazard.

2) The trees grow fast, big, and the wood is very weak. If any of the limbs are hanging above your house or your neighbors, or in a position where, if they break off where they are attached to the tree trunk, they can swivel onto your house, or one of your neighbor's houses, you have a real liability on your hands. While the wood is weak, it's still heavy enough to do serious damage to a house, or someone underneath it when it comes down.

While everyone likes to keep trees, cottonwoods are special hazards. If a limb falls on your neighbor's house, the cost of removing the tree will look really cheap by comparison.
Here where i live, when the neighbors limb falls and goes thru your roof, it's your insurance that deals with it, not the neighbors. They are only responsible if it's been deemed a hazard by a licensed arborist beforehand and they don't act. I had to get our city (lexington, ky) arborist to sign off on our removals.
 
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My neighborhood was founded in the 1930s and nearly all of the houses now are original to that time. As you might imagine, there are a great many large, mature trees here and a lot of us value that.

Two years ago, the house just across the street sold, and the new owners promptly cut down all three mature maples and a mature oak on their ¼ acre property.

I asked them the reason why and they said because they didn't want to have to rake leaves in the fall and pick up twigs.
:rollno:

That's how little some people value nature.

We spent 6-8 hours burning downed branches this past open burning season.

Didn’t even clear the backlog of branches on our property.

No desire to cut down the trees. Nor scare away any of the wildlife. We’re fortunate to have nature as our neighbors.
 
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An arborist might be able to inject hormones into the tree to stop the shedding. They can do this with certain trees. For example, they can "treat" sweetgum trees to stop producing (and dropping) gumballs, which are a nuisance to most homeowners that have them.

If that's possible, it would be a great solution.
 
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Instead of wrapping the tree, is there a wrap than can go around the air conditioner unit? Something fine enough to keep out the cotton, but leave the airflow mostly unhindered? build a frame with a small standoff around the AC unit and wrap it. You still may need to clean off the wrapping now and again, but much less a hassle (and more leeway) than cleaning the AC unit. As far as the neighbors' "gets in their car and house" problem -- Roll up your windows (for the cars); use those screens that came with the windows? These are solved problems.
 
Save the tree. The person who suggested you poison it is perhaps unaware that would in no way change the cost of removal, actually it would be more hazardous. If the cotton falls at certain times you could hire a team to clean up. If it's constant, never mind.
I just had a groundhog eat all of my new echinacea. boo-hoo. I knew I was taking a chance, groundhogs Love echinacea, even the flowers. I'll put in stokes asters which they don't touch because they are too prickly.
 
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There is an enormous cottonwood tree in my backyard. For about a month, every summer, it constantly sheds blobs of cotton that float around the entire neighborhood and get on and in everything. It looks a lot like snow except that it doesn't melt.

Several of my neighbors have asked me to cut it down because it's a real nuisance. It gets inside their cars and in their houses. It clogs up window unit air conditioners.

I agree with them. I fully understand their annoyance. In fact, recently I was sitting on my back porch and I actually inhaled one of the floating cotton blobs and it went down into my lungs and I was coughing for about 10 minutes.

I looked into cutting the tree down and the lowest quote I got was $4,500 because of its gargantuan size and other issues like difficult accessibility and close proximity to multiple buildings and power lines.

I was told by one tree removal company that he can't remember seeing a tree more difficult to remove than this one. He quoted me $7,000, I assume because he really didn't want to do the job so he quoted an inflated price, expecting me to reject it.

The bottom line is, there's just no way that I can afford $4,500 right now. In fact, I've got a pile of medical bills I'm struggling to pay off and I've been selling nearly all of my non necessary personal possessions that have any value at all in order to get back in the black ink again. Spending that amount of money out of my pocket would literally ruin me, right now.

Nevertheless, last week I talked to two of my neighbors who complained about the tree and I made them an offer. I said that I'd agree to remove the tree and pay $1,500 toward the cost, if they'd contribute the remaining $3,000.

They both rejected my offer and told me that they weren't going to pay anything and it was my legal responsibility to pay for it.

I consulted my lawyer and he told me that since the tree was healthy and there was no reason to believe that it might imminently fall on someone's house or other property, then I can legally leave it up. The fact that it sheds cotton is just part of the nature of the tree and I don't have any legal obligation to mitigate that.

I do have to admit an ulterior motive, here. The house I live in was built by my grandparents in the 1930s, when they immigrated here from Canada. The tree was planted in 1942, specifically to commemorate the birth of my father. I wish to keep the tree, partly for sentimental reasons. but also, because it provides a lot of shade in the summer and it keeps my house significantly cooler than if it wasn’t there. And it looks cool. It dwarfs every other tree in the entire neighborhood.

My question is, can anyone suggest a way out of this dilemma? Frankly, if it wasn't for the cost, I'd agree to take the tree down. I don't want to be a bad neighbor and this cottonwood is genuinely a nuisance. If I was my neighbor, I'd be really annoyed by it, but I just don't see any reasonable path forward where everybody is happy.
The tree predates your neighbors, and you!
Let it live.
Your lawyer says it can stay, the neighbors can just deal with it.
If the city has no legal way to force the issue, the neighbors can get the money together and pay for the removal. You are not obligated to act against your wishes!
As a matter of fact if they want it out, and you don’t- they should PAY YOU on top of the removal fee!
 
I have a tree filled property (mature California Valley Oaks, Ash and Elms) myself. We bought the property at least partially because of the trees because they provide privacy, shade and beauty. Some neighbors don't like the "mess" the trees cause over the course of a year, but none of the trees pose a safety risk to any of my neighbors properties. We've been here for over 35 years and most of the neighbors bought after us, in some cases a long time after us. The neighbors are free to cut any branches that go across their property lines, but I am not compelled to cut trees on my property because my neighbors don't like them.

my vote is the tree stays!
 
I love trees and am all in favor of keeping them in almost every situation. Your tree that big that's healthy and has deep personal meaning shouldn't be up for debate. It's actually kind of ballsy, IMO, for your neighbors to ask you to remove it and even more ballsy to complain and not help you pay. Jeez.

It's true that sometimes you really have to cut down a tree. We planted a box elder in the back yard. We didn't know that it was female or what that might mean. We planted it because we loved the (male) box elder in the front yard. We had to remove it 25 years later because it came from the nursery with box elder beetles. It turns out they reproduce on the female trees. The tree was healthy enough, but over the years we'd have occasional infestations, no big deal. But one year they were so numerous the fences all around the house were covered with large swaths of bright red nymphs. We ended up with so many, everywhere, that they were even going through the neighbor's vents and ending up in their light fixtures. In this case, the neighbor's request won out. Fortunately, our neighbor knew a guy who removed the tree for $300, which was an amazing price. The tree in the front remains and is bigger than ever.

That tree was also the start of my husband's tree planting "phase." He planted them all over our yard, they all grew fast, and some eventually had to be removed because they blocked the light in the vegetable garden. Fortunately, I started buying a bass every time my husband planted a tree, or we'd have had to remove a lot more trees. 😈
 
The whole situation sounds completely arrogant and obnoxious to me. Not to mention these people are completely clueless. (edited to a friendlier version)

And I strongly dislike cottonwoods - one more thing to set off allergies.
Even worse, the farmer next to us keeps planting alfalfa to feed his cows or something. I told him to knock it off and just go by some feed.
He said I was being udderly ridiculous. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯



PS: I think I drove by your house passing through Rochelle on the way to Dixon a few weeks ago - it's the one with the big cottonwood tree, right?
Your house color kinda bugged me - Could you get that repainted??
LOL!!
:woot:
 
It seems there are primarily two schools of thought in this thread: leave the tree as is, or have the tree completely removed. How about something between those two extremes? As @hieronymous asked in his post #48, how about having the tree trimmed? You (the OP) said that you don't like the messy fluffy things (including the one that you inhaled), so maybe an option would be to hire a professional tree trimmer rather than a tree remover. Just my two cents.
That seems like a good idea on paper, but it wouldn't work when put into practice.

1) Trimming the tree would require a professional company to come out with specialized equipment, including a bucket lift, and cutting off and removing a substantial amount of wood.

The logistics of the tree location (inside a fence and in very close proximity to several buildings and power lines) means it would still cost a lot of money to do the job (certainly a lot more than $1,500).

2) The fluffy cotton things sprout in large amounts from everywhere on the tree where the leaves are growing, so in order to stop the cotton shedding, I'd need to get rid of as many leaf bearing branches as possible.

If too many leaf bearing branches are removed, the tree will sicken and die. If too few are removed, it will still shed cotton.
 
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Maybe research if there's a way to 'neuter' it, so the cotton doesn't spread, but without killing it?
I've no idea if that's a possibility, of course.

Supposedly you can minimize the blooms to a degree.

"To reduce or eliminate the cottonwood fluff (seed dispersal) from cottonwood trees, spraying the tree with a growth regulator (like ethephon) or replacing the tree with a non-shedding variety are the best options. Applying a fruit eliminator (ethephon-based herbicide) can significantly reduce the amount of seeds produced. "


Several posters mentioned chemically treating the tree to prevent it from shedding cotton, so I looked into the idea.

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Apparently, there are ways to spray both physical and biological "fluff" inhibitors to the tree that can substantially reduce the amount produced.

This seems like it might be a possibility that, while not perfect, might placate my neighbors, while not being too difficult or costly for me.

I'll do some more research and see how feasible this is.
 
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My yard is inundated by the falling leaves from my neighbor's huge oak tree every fall, which I rake up every year. That's how it goes, noboy controls the wind. There are a couple large branches hanging over my yard that, if they came down in a storm, would clock either one of my cars, or my boat. I intend to have those branches cut down, as is my right, but have no expectation that my neighbor will kick in on the cost. Do they have plants on their property that release pollen? Are you allergic to it? If so, you would have zero recourse. We need a LOT more trees to counteract the damege we do to the environment, not less. Leave it be.
 
Several posters mentioned chemically treating the tree to prevent it from shedding cotton, so I looked into the idea.

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Apparently, there are ways to spray both physical and biological "fluff" inhibitors to the tree that can substantially reduce the amount produced.

This seems like it might be a possibility that, while not perfect, might placate my neighbors, while not being too difficult or costly for me.

I'll do some more research and see how feasible this is.
The neighbors would still derive a benefit. I would "offer" to let them contribute toward funding that as well, but only if they bring it up again. Doing the research is fine, but tipping your hand to them would likely only embolden their sense of entitlement over, and presumption upon, you. You're still under no obligation even to do their homework for them, never mind anything else.

By all means, gather your information, but do so quietly. Let them stew.
 

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