So anyone ever tried these with SBW Dirty Guts? Are they worth messing with? For 60$ I am a bit curious.
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Uggh realized i described med's as "perfect gauge"... i meant lights... far & above what most guys seem to use vs med's or ultras
Now you have me curious about these, too! (SBW dirty guts). What about the black tape-wound Eurosonics? Same price range, have wondered re their sound compared to the white ones that everyone (incl myself) loves?... Anybody use/like 'em?
Black nylonwounds are not actually the same price range. Gollihur site, click on options, and the ~$59 price is actually for a spirocore stark d string.
also: the Eurosonic mediums continue to be my favorite string yet, against EP Weichs and Spirocore Mittels. Maybe I should just stop looking and enjoy.
also: the Eurosonic mediums continue to be my favorite string yet, against EP Weichs and Spirocore Mittels. Maybe I should just stop looking and enjoy.
Whoa, you're right. How weird is that? I may alert him (his son, now) & try to find out whats up... still wonder if they are same as or different from "white" ones..
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The black tapewounds we stock are the alternate model that use Tungsten Steel (they make a version using the same steel as the white tapewounds too, but we don't currently stock them) which is what accounts for the price difference.
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Thx for clarifying Mark, & for fixing the drop-down menu. What does the tungsten do for their feel/sound? More firm/less slap-friendly? Similar volume?
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Tungsten steel has more mass than "regular" stainless; as such, they can use less of it and still get the same tension and essential fullness of tone, thereby making for a slightly less thick string. This may provide better (softer) playability versus a non-tungsten string. Also, it tends to be a little brasher (acoustically), and has increased ferrous content, and thereby higher gain if you use magnetic pickups - think of the difference between steel strings and nickel on an electric bass guitar - so the sound is a little different both amplified and non-amplified.
If you've ever played Corelli 370 strings, they are also made with a Tungsten blend - and they make a set (the 380) that isn't, and they exhibit similar differences. (<- nice use of oxymoron there, eh?)
BTW, the black "Eurosonics" are called Presto Jazzicato and Presto Jazzicato Tungsten.
The G and D are identical in both sets, only the A and E are different.
Also the tension is different. On the Tungsten set the E has a higher tension than the A on the non-tungsten set the A has higher tension than the E.
I once got a Tungsten A for my non-Tungsten E since I felt this will better fit tensionwise. But the regular set was old (got it used) and the Tungsten A new, so the A was rather bright.
Anyway not my set of strings, so they are in my drawer. I would use the A ad E from different sets. In both cases they fit better tensionwise unless you need a rather strong E or A.
I didn't got the permission to publish the measurements of the Presto strings from Jonas Lohse (we had a session measuring almost all of them together), so the only measurements I could publish are the one of my own strings. But I can give hints like approximate range of tension and growing or diminishing tension towards the bottom, strong A string etc.
The G and D are identical in both sets, only the A and E are different.
Also the tension is different. On the Tungsten set the E has a higher tension than the A on the non-tungsten set the A has higher tension than the E.
I once got a Tungsten A for my non-Tungsten E since I felt this will better fit tensionwise. But the regular set was old (got it used) and the Tungsten A new, so the A was rather bright.
Anyway not my set of strings, so they are in my drawer. I would use the A ad E from different sets. In both cases they fit better tensionwise unless you need a rather strong E or A.
I didn't got the permission to publish the measurements of the Presto strings from Jonas Lohse (we had a session measuring almost all of them together), so the only measurements I could publish are the one of my own strings. But I can give hints like approximate range of tension and growing or diminishing tension towards the bottom, strong A string etc.
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Saw a string thread with eurosonics mentioned, thought I should update this.
So I stuck by the Eurosonic Mediums for a couple months. I do get the LARGEST sound acoustically out of any string I have tried. They also amplified well with a Krivo for a barn dance. The decay really helped make me sound more like a DB than using it with spirocores. The pitch is a bit ambiguous, I now understand lol. I don't know if that is because of the diameters but if anything it has helped my intonation moving back to a standard steel gauge.
I also purchased and had a run with the Eurosonic Black Tungsten strings. Great clarity, svelte feel to them. Very easy to get around on. Played a weekend with the band (washboard, fiddle, banjolele, guitar) and I missed the "low end information" that the white eurosonics carried. The LARGENESS. They went back on.
Winter is upon us and things have slowed down. I was watching a Milt Hinton video and thought what the heck, throw the spirocores on to see what I am missing...
And I was missing a lot. I forgot how much more organic steel sounded and felt. There is so much more going on with them and my technique with them is much improved, I can pull a lot of tones out of them. AND I dusted off the bow.
I am playing Saturday and I am sure I will miss the thud, but I am feeling like they might be getting shelved till next summer when its humid AF and I just need to thud loudly outdoors somewhere.
So, for now, back to spiros.
How many times has that been said on this forum... ?
Be well, all.
So I stuck by the Eurosonic Mediums for a couple months. I do get the LARGEST sound acoustically out of any string I have tried. They also amplified well with a Krivo for a barn dance. The decay really helped make me sound more like a DB than using it with spirocores. The pitch is a bit ambiguous, I now understand lol. I don't know if that is because of the diameters but if anything it has helped my intonation moving back to a standard steel gauge.
I also purchased and had a run with the Eurosonic Black Tungsten strings. Great clarity, svelte feel to them. Very easy to get around on. Played a weekend with the band (washboard, fiddle, banjolele, guitar) and I missed the "low end information" that the white eurosonics carried. The LARGENESS. They went back on.
Winter is upon us and things have slowed down. I was watching a Milt Hinton video and thought what the heck, throw the spirocores on to see what I am missing...
And I was missing a lot. I forgot how much more organic steel sounded and felt. There is so much more going on with them and my technique with them is much improved, I can pull a lot of tones out of them. AND I dusted off the bow.
I am playing Saturday and I am sure I will miss the thud, but I am feeling like they might be getting shelved till next summer when its humid AF and I just need to thud loudly outdoors somewhere.
So, for now, back to spiros.
How many times has that been said on this forum... ?
Be well, all.
