Ever been ripped-off by your own boss...?

[sloasdaylight]

Does "B" have a job opening?

 

[pacojas]

it's simple,...

if she called you, how come "your" name wasn't on the check?!!

 

[Spinal Tapper]

it's simple,...

if she called you, how come "your" name wasn't on the check?!!

I thought about that. I think legally they had to send it to my company because the work was done on company hours and on company property.

Hopefully there was some dialogue between B and A after the check was sent that maybe I should get a piece of it. Which, I'm sure A probably would've laughed and said No Way, anyways...so it really doesn't matter, I guess.

 

[eyeballkid]

I see where you might think you 'earned a cut,' but you did the project on 'A's' time, not your own.

if he's salaried and has to do everything on his plate no matter how it cuts his time, he was doing "B"s project...not "A"s.. he did "A" a favor who was doing a favor for "B" and it seems noone did a favor for him.

 

[Spinal Tapper]

if he's salaried and has to do everything on his plate no matter how it cuts his time, he was doing "B"s project...not "A"s.. he did "A" a favor who was doing a favor for "B" and it seems noone did a favor for him.

Boom. There it is.

But it's true, I technically don't HAVE to be paid extra on this. Just felt like I should be, and felt like it was B's intentions to make sure I was compensated.

 

[Munjibunga]

Bottom line, you weren't "ripped off."

 

[Spinal Tapper]

Bottom line, you weren't "ripped off."

I agree. The title of the thread was built in haste. It should read: "Have you ever FELT ripped off by your boss."

 

[Eublet]

I get that an employer can take advantage of you if you let them. It doesn't seem that was the case here. Again, if this becomes routine, then he'll have a valid complaint. For now, I suggest he just consider this "going above and beyond" for his employer in order to earn him favor. That's a good thing. If you start screaming abuse and unfairness without any real legitimate reason it can cause issues in the workplace. Some of you guys act like he should be outraged over this. You are the exact kind of folks I would avoid hiring at all costs.

 

[Spinal Tapper]

I get that an employer can take advantage of you if you let them. It doesn't seem that was the case here. Again, if this becomes routine, then he'll have a valid complaint. For now, I suggest he just consider this "going above and beyond" for his employer in order to earn him favor. That's a good thing. If you start screaming abuse and unfairness without any real legitimate reason it can cause issues in the workplace. Some of you guys act like he should be outraged over this. You are the exact kind of folks I would avoid hiring at all costs.

Yeah, this is the road I'm taking. I'm not even bringing it up with A. If the situation comes along again, I'm going to work out a more concrete payment plan, or not take the project at all.

Thanks for your guys' inputs.

 

[aborgman]

Worst advice I've heard in a while. I could name a bunch of reasons, but employees who behave this way will never succeed in their life or career.

Yep...

Successful employees don't SAY it.

They just do it, while looking for another job that pays reasonably, and then bail to the new job at the first opportunity.

 

[aborgman]

There are very strict requirements for classifying an employee as exempt, and very harsh penalties for not meeting the criteria.

Not really.

Manage any people at all or be a "professional" - and you've met the exempt requirements.

 

[aborgman]

As a business person myself, finding good help is extremely hard, mostly because people don't understand a good working ethic and how to get ahead in the real world.

Hiring is a pure supply-demand problem.

If you can't find enough supply of good employees - by definition you aren't offering a high enough compensation package to attract good employees.

 

[Truktek2]

Just chalk it up as a learning experience. Obviously there was a communication breakdown somewhere and you got left holding the bag. There's nothing you can do about it now.

Just remember any job is a business RELATIONSHIP, and people need to stop putting their employers on pedestals. You were hired to provide a specific service and nothing more. Once that relationship is no longer mutually beneficial move on. Forget the little buzz words and phrases they use. "stagnant economy" "lucky to have a job" etc b.s.

If you're competant at your job and are a good worker move on.

I can tell you from experience, employers who said they couldn't do anything for me quickly changed their tune when I handed in my resignation. Oh now, you can afford that raise? Really?. Too little too late.

I can honestly say that I can go back to ANY of my previous employers in a heartbeat, chip on my shoulder and all, I've earned it. Why? Because I bust my a&& for my employer. Rarely call in sick, never late, and you won't catch me goofing off. During work ours I work. (don't ask me to work through lunch or breaks not happenin') ANYTHING above 8 hrs is ot. I don't ask for favors, don't ask me for any.

Remember, you don't get what you deserve, you get what you negotiate. Can't agree to my terms, I won't work for you.

 

[Eublet]

Hiring is a pure supply-demand problem.

If you can't find enough supply of good employees - by definition you aren't offering a high enough compensation package to attract good employees.

Yes to the first part, but the second part seems like a fairly glib comment. Simply put, in certain industries there is a lot of difficulty in finding good help for a variety of reasons, such as location, language barriers, skill sets within the demographic region, economical situations, etc. Of course you can always just throw more money at the problem to bring in the employees you need, but that isn't always good business either as it has it's own consequences, some of which can be catastrophic. If running a business and hiring great employees that can help grow the company were easy, then everyone would be doing it. Most new businesses fail for a reason.

 

[Spinal Tapper]

CRAZY! So B's assistant JUST called me. They have more changes to the project. Which means it's not over. Which means I have to spend more of my time to fix whatever they decided they didn't like about it.

I'm going to talk to A now...I think it's absolutely necessary.

 

[Eublet]

CRAZY! So B's assistant JUST called me. They have more changes to the project. Which means it's not over. Which means I have to spend more of my time to fix whatever they decided they didn't like about it.

I'm going to talk to A now...I think it's absolutely necessary.

Good for you! Hope it goes well!

 

[Truktek2]

CRAZY! So B's assistant JUST called me. They have more changes to the project. Which means it's not over. Which means I have to spend more of my time to fix whatever they decided they didn't like about it.

I'm going to talk to A now...I think it's absolutely necessary.

Remember be polite, not confrontational or angry. Smile if you can and make eye contact. Simply state that the project has already taken up too much time that you had set aside for prior commitments. If they try to sway you (and the bas**rds will lol) stay strong and repeat "I'm afraid I have to decline, as I'm trying to earn a little extra money by taking side work after I leave here", unless you just want to come right out and say you want more money.

 

[aborgman]

Yes to the first part, but the second part seems like a fairly glib comment. Simply put, in certain industries there is a lot of difficulty in finding good help for a variety of reasons, such as location, language barriers, skill sets within the demographic region, economical situations, etc. Of course you can always just throw more money at the problem to bring in the employees you need,

Right - you've got high demands, and you have to pay for those skill sets.

but that isn't always good business either as it has it's own consequences, some of which can be catastrophic.

Absolutely - which is why a good business considers realistic employee costs when designing a business plan.

A business that can't afford qualified employees is no different from a business that can't afford raw materials.

If running a business and hiring great employees that can help grow the company were easy, then everyone would be doing it. Most new businesses fail for a reason.

Yes - and the main reasons are poor business planning, undercapitalization, and an idea that because you're good at (or love doing) a task, you can make a viable business out of it on that basis alone.

 

[Joe Nerve]

Didn't read all the responses and thinking this is probably resolved, but I would write to B and state you never recieved the payment. When he responds I'd ask if the payment was meant for me, or the company. And then I'd follow up along those lines.

I've run into things somewhat similar with bands. If I'm hired to play a gig and someone throws the bandleader a $100 tip during the show because the guy is drunk or we made him happy, in a 3 piece band... am i entitled to a piece of that? The band leader didn't think so, even though he was probably earning 3X my pay to start with.

 

[sloasdaylight]

Didn't read all the responses and thinking this is probably resolved, but I would write to B and state you never recieved the payment. When he responds I'd ask if the payment was meant for me, or the company. And then I'd follow up along those lines.

I've run into things somewhat similar with bands. If I'm hired to play a gig and someone throws the bandleader a $100 tip during the show because the guy is drunk or we made him happy, in a 3 piece band... am i entitled to a piece of that? The band leader didn't think so, even though he was probably earning 3X my pay to start with.

And then when "B" calls "A" to see if the payment got there, the OP has a lot of 'splainin to do.