Experience using Guitar Rig for good bass effects?

[gorskkr]

I was thinking about picking up the newest version of guitar rig for my bass and my electric guitar.

Does anyone have any experience using Guitar Rig for their bass and/or guitar? I wanted to get some real cool distorted synth tones for my bass; is this possible with guitar rig?

My main question I listed above. However, If any of you have anything else to add about guitar rig as far as:
-recording into a DAW like ableton (have you done this, is it easy?)
-Do I just have a cable running from my bass into my interface and I'm good to go? So the sound will blast out of my monitor speakers? (noob question I know, but this is all new to me!!)
-Do you think this is one of the best products to buy when getting your bass and guitar on your computer?

I ultimately want to create my own electronic music. I want to be able to lay down a drum beat. Make a funky bass line with my bass guitar and then manipulate the sound in ableton. I then want to use my electric guitar for all the other sounds in my compositions. I'm still experimenting with what the end product will be but this is the best description i can give so far. I really like chilled out electronic music, trip-hop, hip-hop, anything funky, and just random stuff i make up in my head. Hope this helps!!

 

[gorskkr]

http://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/komplete/guitar/guitar-rig-5-pro/

^^the website in case any of you wanted to check it out. I've never used anything like this before. So any tips on using this product would be cool.

 

[Flux Jetson]

Yea, you can do all of that stuff with most any DAW. But don't expect super-duper-excellent results especially using your little monitor speakers. Listen to some of your favorite music through those speakers and you'll see what I mean.

All of what you're wanting to do is ~easy~ once you learn the basics of computer recording. That Guitar Rig seems to have at least one bass amp model called Bass Pro, but my guess is that you'll find other amp models that will also work with your bass even though they might say they're for guitar. I use a POD Pro with my bass which was made for guitars, and I get LOADS of bottom end with certain models.

So I say if it's something you think you really want, go for it. And yes, all you'll need to do is plug your bass into your interface and record. Keep in mind that your recordings will sound no better than the audio interface that you're using. Crappy interface? Crappy sound!

So at least a middle quality interface.

It will also take you many attempts before you learn how to EQ and mix your recordings properly so that they sound good on other playback systems besides your monitors. You'll discover that your music may sound fine on your monitors but not on a good car stereo or home stereo system, or headphones. It takes practice and patience. Practice and Patience!

Youll need to be PATIENT at first, it willtake you a while to learn the software, as well as learn how to get good mixes and good sound. Do not expect great results right away. Expect to make a LOT ... A LOT .. of mistakes for a while. It's like learning to ride a bike, you're going to fall down a lot, scrape your knees alot, before you can do any good.

And if you get frustrated because things are not happening the way you feel they should be, remind yourself that teenage kids use this stuff everyday and do fine with it. There are millions of people all over the world that use this stuff and make acceptable music with it. Chances are good that you will be able to as well.

Have fun!

 

[Daniel L]

Yeah theres only one bass model, but you can use all the guitar models because your can't physically damage anything, I'm a fan of running an AC30 and the bass pro in parallel

By far the coolest thing about guitar pro is the step sequencer and LFOs you can apply to any of the settings of any effect and amp, you can get some really really cool sounds out of it, I'm still trying to get my head around it all. There is one unit in there called Container, it has heaps of presets that do have LFO and step sequencers applied to them, they are not under the standard preset list though, you have to pull the container in to an empty setting, some really whacked out sounds though.

The other good thing is you can run it stand alone, so you an write up all the patches you want, then later on just open your DAW and record.

 

[FaithNoMan]

Yeah theres only one bass model, but you can use all the guitar models because your can't physically damage anything, I'm a fan of running an AC30 and the bass pro in parallel

I disliked the bass model, but probably because I'm not an Ampeg guy at all. It looks like it's an SVTII model or something along those lines.

I got my best result running my overdrive pedal(B3K) into the AC30 model on there, and using a deeper cabinet than the one matched with the AC30 model.

The Mesa and the "Jump"(Peavey or Marshall) cabinet worked great for bass. Imo, of course.

Here it is, under the "Foo Monkey Grat" setup on guitar:

https://soundcloud.com/centaurus_a/3chordcrunch

 

[Daniel L]

I disliked the bass model, but probably because I'm not an Ampeg guy at all. It looks like it's an SVTII model or something along those lines.

Yeah I'm not a fan of the bass pro by itself, either run it parallel, or with pedals in front of it. Amplitube SVX does the Ampeg thing better IMO

But yeah, as far as crazy sounds go, I think that Guitar Rig will do what the OP wants

 

[gorskkr]

Keep in mind that your recordings will sound no better than the audio interface that you're using. Crappy interface? Crappy sound!

Attached a pic of my interface. Hopefully it's not too terrible. I haven't purchased guitar rig yet, but I have played my bass guitar through the monitor speakers. It sounded ok but then when I tried to record it seemed like there was a delay.

 

[gorskkr]

also... it looks like guitar rig 5 pro is either going to be $200 for the software, and $400 of software and the Rig controller. Do I need to spend the extra$200? I just bought ableton live 9 suite and a midi controller so I'm hoping to not have to spend extra uneccesaril.