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But you should get the general idea from my post
But you should get the general idea from my post
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But but but where's yer Cherry Pops??![]()
I'm loving this thread. To the guys using Loopmasters:
Are they active? Buffered? True bypass? Series or parallel?
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The point of my board is to be able to control a complex set of effects and looping commands in as simple a way as possible. All of my pedals are hooked into MIDI effect routers- this lets pedals that aren't MIDI-equipped be turned on and off via MIDI, sort of like a bypass loop strip except I can program in any combination of pedals into presets. This way I have the option of turning on my Big Muff with one preset, turning on my Blowtorch with another preset, having one preset that turns them both on simultaneously, etc. The advantage of this is that I can use my Gordius MIDI controller to control just about everything I have. The MIDI effect routers are both in the loop of my Xotic X-Blender, so I can have everything blended with a clean sound, and it also allows me an analog way of switching off all my effects if I'm not near a MIDI patch that's programmed to turn everything off.
Some of my pedals are also MIDI equipped, such as the Pitchfactor and the Boss VF-1. While they're both still turned on and off with the MIDI routers, they also have a separate MIDI cable going into them to for MIDI Control Changes. My MIDI controller is capable of making some really advanced commands, so by doing this I can, for instance turn on a delay patch with 100% feedback, then press the same MIDI button to turn off the delay but keep the patch still on, so I can play cleanly over a feedback loop. It also (obviously) allows for saving lots of different effects patches on each effect.
The expression pedal is plugged into my Gordius MIDI controller and can control any expression controllable pedal/rack effect on my board- my Looperlative, VF-1, Source Audio BMWD, and Pitchfactor all use the same exp. pedal. I have it programmed so that whatever effect is last selected is the effect that the expression pedal is currently controlling, and it's default setting is to control Looperlative parameters if no effects are currently being used. It can control multiple effects simultaneously, or even multiple facets of the same effect, as the Gordius can make it send out two or more separate MIDI commands to the same source (for example, adjusting two VF-1 parameters and a Pitchfactor parameter all simultaneously), but I haven't gotten that far into programming things yet.
The FS-6 switch is there to work as two additional buttons for the Gordius, although the Gordius firmware hasn't been finalized to where this function is active yet, so right now it's not plugged into anything. I'm actually thinking of selling my Gordius for the bigger version of it, which would mean I wouldn't need the FS-6 anymore.
The rack portion of the board holds my amp, my Looperlative looper, and my Boss VF-1 and my Voodoo Labs Pedal Power II. Having the looper point up at me is essential because my eyesight is so poor that I had real issues trying to see which loops were active when it sat a couple feet away from me in a rack on my cab. The Looperlative looper is completely MIDI controlled as well. While ideally I would have sets of MIDI banks set up for each song I do so that my looping commands would be combined with my effect commands so that a single stomp would change both simultaneously, I'm not organized enough for that, so all of my looping and all of my effect patches are separate. If I ever became a "real" gigging musician, I'd likely take the time to do this, as it would save even more tapdancing as I wouldn't be hunting for a particular effect mid-song. Most of what I play now is just songwriting at home, so I rarely play songs that I've already written again. It's nice to know that option is there though.
Also, if I know I won't be needing my effects, I can unplug my input to the amp, plug my bass right into it, and play as I normally would, and the looper with still function, as it is the only thing that I have going through my amp's effects loop. The entire pedalboard only has three cables going into/out of it: a speakon cable going to my cab, an XLR cable going to my amp for recording, and a power cable. There is a power strip located inside underneath the rack stuff in the pedalboard- it's very hard to get to thoughThere is an active two-channel input mixer that allows me to run both my bass and my Handsonic percussion thingy (or another bass, etc.) through all the effects and my amp.
The effects themselves are just a wide range of stuff I like- I love analog fuzzes and would have a third one on there if I could fit it. Not much is missing sound-wise from my setup- The VF-1 covers most of my moduation/time-based effects, and most of the pedals are noise boxes. Synth sounds are the only thing that's lacking, but I can still get decent synth sounds with the VF-1 or combinations of fuzzes with either the analog 3Leaf or the digital filter on the VF-1. There's an Xotic BB overdrive and an EHX BBM that are a bit tough to see in this pic.
The Gordius controller is programmed with a PC editor. While most of its programming can be done on the unit itself, it would take forever to do so. None of the buttons have any predetermined PC/CC/etc. value, as they do on nearly all MIDI controllers- you can program any button to do anything, and multiple simultaneous or sequential commands as well. One really cool thing about this is you can save different setup maps for it, so that you can load in different maps for completely different button setups if you want. The one downside is that it obviously isn't a plug-and-play device- you need to program a button to do something before it will do anything. While this is quick and easy using the PC editor, it's not the best if you're testing out effects at your pedalboard that's across the room from your PC. I've been thinking about picking up a netbook that I can keep next to my pedalboard (and put in my gig bag) for just this purpose. I also have to run my XLR cable all the way across the room to my PC for recording, so a netbook with a Firewire port would be great, as I'd also be able to keep my little Firewire recording device near my pedalboard and in my gig bag, although I'm having a tough time finding many netbooks with Firewire or Smartcard ports.
Brilliant!