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I'm not sure if it's phase issues with the kick drum and bass through our small p.a. sub relative to my rig position or not but there are some bars where that polarity switch helped out a lot.
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fdecks HPF, Part II
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I'm not sure if it's phase issues with the kick drum and bass through our small p.a. sub relative to my rig position or not but there are some bars where that polarity switch helped out a lot.
I don't notice that much of a difference when I switch the polarity switch. Can it really make that much of a difference? In any setting.
If there were a HPF 3 DI, I would have bought it instead of the 3 I did buy. I can't gig without it, and it's the last thing in my chain before a DI box. I also plan to use it on acoustic guitar and acoustic bass. Both of those situations will have the HPF velcroed to the DI. So yes, I think a HPFDI is a great idea!
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It depends on the room environment or other instruments interacting with you. Sometimes a phase switch is a lifesaver, sometimes it does virtually nothing audibly significant.
I own the series 3 and use it with my upright. It's a great hpf! I don't use it all the time though, just when room acoustics dictate. With electric bass I have little use for it. Between built-in amp filtering, cab limitations and adequate pa support it's never necessary with my electric setups.
I honestly can't hear what's my series 1 is doing, but I'm glad it's running last in my chain before my amp. So something tells me that my cab is thanking me. There's been times when I do a gig with no house support and I've had to crank my GK 1001 into my Neo 410 and that always makes me nervous.
I've pondered that idea, as I also own a DI box and have chained the two together. But here's why I've hesitated to design an actual product: I would basically be buying Jensen transformers at "retail" price and marking them up. The resulting sales price would seem pretty ugly.
But I won't rule anything out. I've considered creating a version of the HPF 3 that's just the same guts in a bigger box, thus leaving space for a variety of possible options. That would result in a semi-custom product line, which I would have to figure out how to manage.
Fdeck: I think you should figure out what your sell price would be for a HPFDI, post it, and see if we would be opposed to paying it. Considering what people pay for the nicer DI boxes, you may be fine. But I don't know how much a Jensen transformer goes for.
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I've used it on higher volume semi-acoustic gigs to put my bass out of phase with an acoustic guitar. His instrument was resonating to my notes, making it hard to control. Flip the phase and we were golden. Didn't change my sound any, but it improved the band's sound significantly.
Maybe an adjustable phase pot with a digital readout, too. I really like my bass to be 47 degrees out of phase from the kick.
The phase switch is there to aid feedback control in a double bass, either from the PA or the monitor amp.
Using it to phase correct a rig with the PA only works in a very restricted range of frequency and only for the player in the one location.
Using it to phase correct a rig with the PA only works in a very restricted range of frequency and only for the player in the one location.
The resonance cured would have been due to the combined PA and your amp being in phase at a bad frequency at his position until you flipped it.
Continuing to marvel at how the S1 HPF has transformed an uncontrollable sound into a very defined sound in a bar that has horrible acoustics!
Bass in the monitor to the acoustic voice of the guitar.
No amps at that particular gig.
Weird. You're saying slab bass generated booming in the acoustic guitar, "cured" by phase flip, no amps. Where was the hpf in the chain?
The only way a phase flip of bass would change how the guitar reacted is if it was acting on PA OR monitor.
Acting on both would have zero effect. The instruments themselves were never in phase to start.
Yeah! And a whole bunch of LEDs in multiple colors, that light up and flash whenever you hit "the brown note". And a microchip with high-fidelity arrangements of the two dozen most-requested cover tunes in existence - from Mustang Sally to Proud Mary to Free Bird - so that weekend warriors can just patch the signal into the PA system, lip sync and play air guitar...and never have to perform those dogs again. And a hidden compartment containing air freshener...so you can "spritz" the entire dive bar with the delicate scent of lilac water - to counteract the odor of tobacco smoke, stale beer...and vomit.
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