fdecks HPF, Part II

[Al Kraft]

I think this device or something like it is exactly what I need for my Mesa M9 Carbine and Powerhouse 4ohm 210 rig. It can produce some excellent lows and high SPL , but I can hear the speakers starting to complain when Im trying to achieve both at the same time. Sounds like this could be the key to achieving a good high volume when necessary while still getting that nice thick low mid tone that we all hear in our heads..

It is indeed a nice pairing with the Carbines...my series 3 works wonders when trying to dial in the bass for acoustically challenging rooms. It tightens and cleans up the low end quite nicely.

 

[Downunderwonder]

It's a bit strange to me makers don't include such a feature in their amps.

an adjustable HPF is not a saleable feature in stores. Customer asks what does this do? It cuts bass. Next!

 

[Al Kraft]

an adjustable HPF is not a saleable feature in stores. Customer asks what does this do? It cuts bass. Next!

I would imagine that for the average buyer and certainly newbies this is a lot more true than many of us could imagine. The obvious questions would be "why would I need a high anything on a bass amp?" and "how is something that reduces/cuts/limits low frequencies useful for a bass amp?".

 

[Downunderwonder]

I would imagine that for the average buyer and certainly newbies this is a lot more true than many of us could imagine. The obvious questions would be "why would I need a high anything on a bass amp?" and "how is something that reduces/cuts/limits low frequencies useful for a bass amp?".

nevermind the newbie or even the average bassist, it's hard enough to convince someone in this thread.

 

[baxter_x]

I still wonder why amp makers don't include such a feature in their amps. In the end it would be helpful and doesn't require a huge investment.

Anyway, I'm convinced I need one.

 

[Downunderwonder]

I still wonder why amp makers don't include such a feature in their amps. In the end it would be helpful and doesn't require a huge investment.

Anyway, I'm convinced I need one.

because sales would be reduced for the reason given earlier.

 

[baxter_x]

Right, but what if makers would include an HPF because it is actually useful and wouldn't say a word about it. They don't necessarily talk about all the filters include in their amps. Same for an HPF.

 

[Chef]

I would imagine that for the average buyer and certainly newbies this is a lot more true than many of us could imagine. The obvious questions would be "why would I need a high anything on a bass amp?" and "how is something that reduces/cuts/limits low frequencies useful for a bass amp?".

Nonono man.
It's easy.
High Pass Filter is for when I smoke too much weed right?

 

[Feral Feline]

HPF is someone that Bogarts it...

 

[baxter_x]

High Pass Filter is for when I smoke too much weed right?

Can I buy some of your high pass filter then?

 

[Downunderwonder]

Right, but what if makers would include an HPF because it is actually useful and wouldn't say a word about it. They don't necessarily talk about all the filters include in their amps. Same for an HPF.

Lots of makers include fixed HPF. We are talking about the variable knee HPF that is the wonderous fdeck HPF3. If you put that on an amp it begs the question ''what does that do?" from buyers. The simple answer is ''it cuts low end". The knee-jerk response to that is to drop it like a hot potato and start looking at something else.

 

[baxter_x]

Lots of makers include fixed HPF

I'd like to know if my Mesa Titan V12 does include one as I've always noticed the speakers were not moving that much despite the low en I could EQ.
I should mail Mesa about it as I'd like to know if it's worth it for me to buy a Thumpinator.

If you put that on an amp it begs the question ''what does that do?" from buyers.

If you don't say a word about it, I guess no one will ask, then even the knee-jerk will be fine with this. But as you mentioned, some makers include an HPF. In know it's the case for the Mesa D800.

 

[Downunderwonder]

I'd like to know if my Mesa Titan V12 does include one as I've always noticed the speakers were not moving that much despite the low en I could EQ.
I should mail Mesa about it as I'd like to know if it's worth it for me to buy a Thumpinator.


If you don't say a word about it, I guess no one will ask, then even the knee-jerk will be fine with this. But as you mentioned, some makers include an HPF. In know it's the case for the Mesa D800.

You can't put knobs on the front for adjusting HPF without explanation. As you may have realised by now, the majority of bassists are thick as three short planks when it comes to less super low bass makes more useful bass.

 

[RoadRanger]

I still wonder why amp makers don't include such a feature in their amps. In the end it would be helpful and doesn't require a huge investment.

The new Mesa D800+ has one . I mostly use the fixed HPF hidden/included in most modern amps or the semi-adjustable one hidden in my Zoom B1on pedal - or the full channel strip in my Behringer XR12 used as a preamp. And my Aguilar TH has a weirdarse combo drive/hpf/lpf knob .

Oh, and I haven't seen the Broughton pedals mentioned here - they make a nice HPF and a combo HPF/LPF pedal.

 

[Groove Doctor]

I used to cut @ 30Hz for HPF by using the semi-parametric EQ on my amps. Then, Boost Low shelf EQ for thick/clear lows.

Now I use an Fdeck III and couldn't imagine gigging without it.

 

[bassboysam]

Matamp has an HPF on a lot of their amps. they call it "depth".


also HPF in a pedal format....I use the Fdeck on one board as an always on effect. The broughton i use as a clean boost with rolled off lows and highs to keep things from getting too boomy and bright.

 

[Al Kraft]

I used to cut @ 30Hz for HPF by using the semi-parametric EQ on my amps. Then, Boost Low shelf EQ for thick/clear lows.

Now I use an Fdeck III and couldn't imagine gigging without it.

I used to do the same thing before getting the HPF-Pre series 3. As expected, the HPF, being the right tool for the job in this case, is a lot more effective in many ways. I always have one with me in my gig bag.

 

[BASSnSAX]

I think an Fdeck may be making its way to my pedal board in the near future!

I've been "Doubling Struggling" for a while with my sound between my upright and my electric basses. I find that my upright has just absolutely massive low end (which just aids in feedback at moderate- to high volumes), but my electric basses really need some bass boost. I use a smallish pedal board, and I've read quite a bit of posts where others have been placing the fdeck right before the amp input...but would it be too crazy to put the fdeck first for the upright?

Here's my signal chain:
Upright -> both into each channel of TC Electronic -> Radial Big -> tuner out
Electric -> Nova Dynamics stereo in/out compressor -> Shot A/B -> Morley Volume Plus --> Amp

TC Electronic Sub'n'Up -> Way Huge Pork Loin (might flip the order of these 2) -> parallel effects loop on my Euphonic Audio iAmp 800, which then gets plugged into either a Euphonic Audio Wizzy M-Line (for smaller or "sound quality is important" gigs/sessions) or into 2 Peavey Headliner 1x12 cabs (for outdoor, louder and/or seedier venues).

Currently, the Nova Dynamics has 2 input levels, which help me mix the levels of my upright and electric basses - in addition to having a harder compression setting for my electric, and a softer, "studio" compression for my upright for general controlling of on-stage-getting-carried-away-edness. From the sounds of it, if I plug my upright into the fdeck, I might be able to even plug both basses in to the Radial, and move the compressor to the effects loop as a truly effects pedal, rather than a utility pedal.

I'd probably be looking at either the Series 2M or Series 3, right?

 

[Stumbo]

I think an Fdeck may be making its way to my pedal board in the near future!

I've been "Doubling Struggling" for a while with my sound between my upright and my electric basses. I find that my upright has just absolutely massive low end (which just aids in feedback at moderate- to high volumes), but my electric basses really need some bass boost. I use a smallish pedal board, and I've read quite a bit of posts where others have been placing the fdeck right before the amp input...but would it be too crazy to put the fdeck first for the upright?

Here's my signal chain:
Upright -> both into each channel of TC Electronic -> Radial Big -> tuner out
Electric -> Nova Dynamics stereo in/out compressor -> Shot A/B -> Morley Volume Plus --> Amp

TC Electronic Sub'n'Up -> Way Huge Pork Loin (might flip the order of these 2) -> parallel effects loop on my Euphonic Audio iAmp 800, which then gets plugged into either a Euphonic Audio Wizzy M-Line (for smaller or "sound quality is important" gigs/sessions) or into 2 Peavey Headliner 1x12 cabs (for outdoor, louder and/or seedier venues).

Currently, the Nova Dynamics has 2 input levels, which help me mix the levels of my upright and electric basses - in addition to having a harder compression setting for my electric, and a softer, "studio" compression for my upright for general controlling of on-stage-getting-carried-away-edness. From the sounds of it, if I plug my upright into the fdeck, I might be able to even plug both basses in to the Radial, and move the compressor to the effects loop as a truly effects pedal, rather than a utility pedal.

I'd probably be looking at either the Series 2M or Series 3, right?

fDeck also has a phase switch that can help the upright with the boominess.

 

[kartiste]

You can't put knobs on the front for adjusting HPF without explanation. As you may have realised by now, the majority of bassists are thick as three short planks when it comes to less super low bass makes more useful bass.

Need to rename the function. Maybe "concifier" or "claritrator", a contraction of concentrator and clarifier. Filters out the mud and concentrates the bass power where it will be more effective.