fdecks HPF, Part II

[kleinenenten]

Im sure no one here has inadvertantly played their whole gig @ 140hz rolloff?

No?

Me neither....

How might such a gig sound?

 

[Downunderwonder]

How might such a gig sound?

Like ten practice amps stacked up.

 

[coyoteboy]

If that happened, and I'm not saying it did, but it wasnt tha horrible. Some of the gig was on EUB, with which it may, I say may, be less noticeable.

 

[jbd5015]

Im sure no one here has inadvertantly played their whole gig @ 140hz rolloff?

No?

Me neither....

I got pretty close one night. A full set (~40 mins). I didnt think it sounded that bad at all. I made a few adjustments with my EQ pedal and the amp around 200hz and i still got a nice full sound.

There was a massive low end roll that was hard to get out of the mains one night. I adjusted the knob pretty close to 140, and it certainly helped. Was able to roll it back to about 100, which is where im usually leaving it for the bar gigs.

Ive been really happy with mine for the rock band. I was amazed at the impact it has on setting the EQ on my amp. It has a tremendous effect on FOH sound as well.

My bread and butter gigs have me standing right behind the subs/lows of the FOH. This caused some issues in the past because of how much better the FOH was at producing the low frequencies my cabinet just cant. It seems to be an effective tool to tame that issue. The amp is easier to hear, there is still a great deal of low end if you want it. It makes some overdrive tones much easier to achieve at lower volumes. Cuts the mud!

 

[MarkA]

Like ten practice amps stacked up.

Wicked.

 

[Rev. Cornelius]

Just a quick question>

Does the fDeck belong in the effects loop or before the input?

Thanks

 

[caeman]

Just a quick question>

Does the fDeck belong in the effects loop or before the input?

Thanks

I have a series 2.

Bass -> Series 2 -> to sound board

I stopped using an amp years ago. My Kala UBass sounds fantastic a few adjustments at the sound board.

 

[B-string]

It will work in either, but I use it at the input jack. This saves any headroom the stages would lose from sub-harmonics.

 

[Coolhandjjl]

Just a quick question>

Does the fDeck belong in the effects loop or before the input?

Thanks

People have tried it in both, and in also between the pre amp and power amp (for the rack mount gear users). The last pedal in your pedal chain going into the input jack is the recommendation.

 

[Rev. Cornelius]

Excellent, thanks.

 

[esa372]

Just a quick question>

Does the fDeck belong in the effects loop or before the input?

Thanks

I use the Series 3 with an Alembic F-1X pre, and it works best for me in the loop.

 

[Stevorebob]

People have tried it in both, and in also between the pre amp and power amp (for the rack mount gear users). The last pedal in your pedal chain going into the input jack is the recommendation.

This way, it also serves as a buffer.

 

[silky smoove]

I like mine downstream of any big low end generating effects (octave pedals come to mind), but upstream of compression. It keeps the compressor from working overly hard to tame huge, largely inaudible low end, and keeps its focus on audible content.

 

[Stevorebob]

I like mine downstream of any big low end generating effects (octave pedals come to mind), but upstream of compression. It keeps the compressor from working overly hard to tame huge, largely inaudible low end, and keeps its focus on audible content.

This is where a side chain is useful in compressors.

 

[MarkA]

Just a quick question>

Does the fDeck belong in the effects loop or before the input?

Thanks

I often play without mine, but, when I use it, where in the signal chain depends on the situation.

With the Mesa Walkabout, I've used it with good results in front of the amp and in the effects loop, but my ear slightly prefers in the effects loop. With the Walkabout, I've noticed a significant increase in headroom at a loud gig with the fDeck (I have a Series 3) set a bit above its minimum cutoff frequency (low 40s, I'm guessing). It is more effective at its job than the lowest semi-parametric EQ band of the Walkabout is (though that can also be useful for cutting very low frequencies) and it frees up that band of EQ for tone-shaping (which it does nicely).

In the rare event that I play with pedals (my pedalboard is Amptweaker Bass Tight Fuzz --> EHX Micro POG --> MXR Bass Envelope Filter), putting it in front of the other pedals makes the action of the MXR more predictable and cleans up the sound a bit overall. If someone else will be playing through my rig and pedalboard (rare), I put it at the end -- thinking more protection, there, from the potentially big sub-lows of the MXR and POG.

I haven't tried it in the effects loop of an amp when using the other pedals, and I haven't tried it in the middle of the board -- just at the beginning or the end.

EDIT: It really does make a nice buffer. Tried plugging my passive bass into the effects return/poweramp-input of my erstwhile Genzler Magellan (which is easier to drive than a lot of effects loops) and just got mud (no reason the loop should be designed, impedance-wise, to accept a passive bass). Ran in via the HPF3 and got crystal-clear sound. (Level was still lower than via the front end, but close enough to be a viable option as long as your instrument's output isn't very low.)

 

[Coolhandjjl]

(I have a Series 3) set a bit above its minimum cutoff frequency (low 40s, I'm guessing)

I wish there was an indicator ring or escutcheon with values. I dial in by sound, but actual values would be helpful, especially when communicating with the FOH guy.

 

[azwipe]

I'm just going to leave this right here...

shoutout to @Dominic DeCosa !

 

[Chef]

That's different than mine

 

[Coolhandjjl]

That's different than mine

I recall some discussions a while back about why these don't have a form factor like other pedals or don't have a bypass. Either this is a user mod, or FDeck came out with a new layout.

 

[azwipe]

I recall some discussions a while back about why these don't have a form factor like other pedals or don't have a bypass. Either this is a user mod, or FDeck came out with a new layout.

I should clarify: this is a mod to my Fdeck Series 3 done by @Dominic DeCosa at my request. Not a clone.