Fearless F112 vs Genzler BA 12-3 SLT

[MaxSpinrun]

I have read both of these cabs are top rated. Is there anybody that has used both? From what I understand, dispersion with both is superior without the beaming effect you get with conventional woofer tweeter. Which of these two cabs do you favor and why. Would welcome the feedback.

 

[CL400Peavey]

Never played that genzler cab, but I've played everything in the fearless line up. Probably will come down to what you want to hear. For me the fEARless is the right choice, as it is going to go lower.

 

[MaxSpinrun]

Never played that genzler cab, but I've played everything in the fearless line up. Probably will come down to what you want to hear. For me the fEARless is the right choice, as it is going to go lower.

Thanks for your input. Ed Friedland reviewed both and not really endorsing either, seemed to favor the F112, although that review was way before doing the BA 12-3 SLT REVIEW. There is a 200.00 dif. Between the two cabs which is not a huge diff. when you get to that level of quality and performance IMHO. Anxious to hear other comments.

 

[Foz]

They both look pretty well though out to me but FWIW I gather Ed is still rocking his Fearless cab on a regular basis and loving it. Maybe ask him?

 

[2BitHack]

THE Boutique Bass Cab Shootout
Not exactly what you're looking for but might be helpful

 

[MaxSpinrun]

THE Boutique Bass Cab Shootout
Not exactly what you're looking for but might be helpful

Thanks for the link. A lot of good observations in that shootout.

 

[fast slapper]

The Fearless has a much more capable driver in it if you have the power to drive it.

 

[MaxSpinrun]

The Fearless has a much more capable driver in it if you have the power to drive it.

Mesa D800+. 400 watts into 8 ohm load.

 

[fast slapper]

Won't be a big difference in overall spl with that power. You will be able to dial in more lows if desired with the fearless. It has a potential 6db output advantage below 100hz. Dispersion pattern is a tossup.

I like the overall package of the fearless better. As I've been saying for years, it's hard to beat kappalites for output per cubic foot without spending considerably more money.

 

[MaxSpinrun]

Won't be a big difference in overall spl with that power. You will be able to dial in more lows if desired with the fearless. It has a potential 6db output advantage below 100hz. Dispersion pattern is a tossup.

I like the overall package of the fearless better. As I've been saying for years, it's hard to beat kappalites for output per cubic foot without spending considerably more money.

Great feedback. I am very curious about the dispersion difference. Thanks again.

 

[fast slapper]

The Faital FE22 used in the Genzler has very wide dispersion from the low mids to 5khz and slightly narrower above that but consistent.

When vertically arrayed, you lose vertical dispersion depending on the length of the array. I assume this is why the slant version exists. Stacking three slant cabs would be a really low compromise solution as done in prosound line arrays. See Presonus CDL.

The F12 will have slightly narrower dispersion horizontally but will have overall wider dispersion vertically.

For a small single cab solution I would go for the fearless. For a modular stack Genzler makes a lot of sense.

 

[S-Bigbottom]

The Faital FE22 used in the Genzler has very wide dispersion from the low mids to 5khz and slightly narrower above that but consistent.

When vertically arrayed, you lose vertical dispersion depending on the length of the array. I assume this is why the slant version exists. Stacking three slant cabs would be a really low compromise solution as done in prosound line arrays. See Presonus CDL.

The F12 will have slightly narrower dispersion horizontally but will have overall wider dispersion vertically.

For a small single cab solution I would go for the fearless. For a modular stack Genzler makes a lot of sense.

The Genzler is crossed over at 800hz the line array produces ALL above.
The slant helps get it to your ears when close to it like a kick back.

Both cabs are great so it is hard to choose on paper. The Fear cabs will go a bit lower and go higher if it has the tweeter.

 

[fast slapper]

Yup. The problem with straight pointing arrays is that they beam a lot vertically. At 12" long, they will beam above 1khz. Not a problem as long as you're within the beam.

Presonus CDL is a more refined version of the Genzler arrays.

 

[MaxSpinrun]

Great point s about dispersion. Thank you guys so much for the insight. Seems as though both cabs have pluses and minuses. Thanks again.