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Fender Decals On Non-Fender Basses

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Is it "vanity" to hope that people will refrain from copyright infringement and misrepresentation of merchandise?

Although I am a Fender endorser and do have an emotional connection to the brand and it's employees, I don't lose any sleep over this issue. But, at the same time, I'm saddened when so many in the TB community demonstrate such lack of respect (or knoweledge about) intellectual property rights. For decades, hardworking blue collar employees of FMIC have workd by their own sweat to make the 'Fender' brand a trusted and respected entitiy that puts food on their plates. FMIC is not just a bunch of millionaire corporate "suits" sitting around laughing about how rich they are. It's mostly middle class hourly employees that just want food for their kids. Openly supporting the counterfeitors who profit off of a brand they have no legitimate share in is not cool.

Openly supporting companies that make a mockery of the purpose of IP law (LIMITED time government enforced monopoly purely in existence to benefit society by avoiding trade secrets) like Fender and Disney isn't all that cool either.
 
I take issue with the posour lablel, because mine is on a bass that no one sees, or sees me play, so I ain't posing...but....

I am starting to see it as a "cheesball" thing to have done, and I like blank headstocks fine. With so much hatred towards the decal, I may just remove it because now, I am starting to see it as taking away from what is otherwise a great bass.:hmm:

Wait, so if noone else sees it, you really care that much to put a decal on a non fender bass?

As I said earlier, I take much more pride in putting MY name on something I had custom made for myself.

There are a couple guys on ebay who makes custom headstock logos with different font depending on what you want.

You could even have a 00000001 serial number put under your Name (done in fender cursive if u like) or whatever else.
 
**You people are trying to pass off an inexpensive product as and expensive product to make yourself look "cool"** If you're going to be a poseur, JUST ADMIT IT!!


Sure... just like these guys:

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Which are Fender products. What's with the hairsplitting semantics. Fender and Squire are the same, you just pay more for the fender than the Fender squire and fender uses cheaper parts in them. no different that getting gas for your car. You choose from three different octain levels at the pump but the name above the gas station doesn't change.

Do yourselves a favor and play a Steinberger like I do, good luck getting a decal on the headstock.....

Keep in mind Fender is Quality like Harley Davidson or Jack Daniels are quality. (Both suck but don't tell a diehard biker that.) I get a kick out of those who spend a tonne of cash and then Proudly wave the name around. The reson these guys are so defensive of the Fender logo is that it is the most valuable part of the bass.

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Which are Fender products. What's with the hairsplitting semantics. Fender and Squire are the same, you just pay more for the fender than the Fender squire and fender uses cheaper parts in them. no different that getting gas for your car. You choose from three different octain levels at the pump but the name above the gas station doesn't change.

Do yourselves a favor and play a Steinberger like I do, good luck getting a decal on the headstock.....

Keep in mind Fender is Quality like Harley Davidson or Jack Daniels are quality. (Both suck but don't tell a diehard biker that.) I get a kick out of those who spend a tonne of cash and then Proudly wave the name around. The reson these guys are so defensive of the Fender logo is that it is the most valuable part of the bass.

Seriously, people that are getting all bent out of shape over the logo don't seem to care at all if you replace ANY other part of the bass with Fender products, just stay the heck away from the logo..... Shows me clearly what they value most about the bass.

-eSmith.

Dude, chill. I was talking about spelling. it's SQUIER not SQUIRE.
Get it?
 
Funny SMCD, you seem to be completely avoiding the comments I made about the most valuable part of a Fender is it's logo...... Anybody can simply disagree, it takes intelligence though to actually put forth a compelling argument. Squire is Fender, roll your eyes if you like but you obviously don't have any valid points to counter that.

Fender makes the same products it made 50 years ago, the only thing they really trade in anymore is the logo, the guitars themselves seem to be nothing more than the packaging......

IP law.... Well, that is not doing any good for society, it protects the profits of the few over the betterment of the many, pretty backwards way to serve society if you ask me. Who cares if there are trade secrets? Trade secrets should be what protects your monopoly, not government enforcement. If I can make a product why shouldn't I be allowed to do so and profit from it? Ideas? everyone gets them, some have ideas that are exactly the same as others. Some see others ideas and can instantly improve them. Why do we protect profit for someone who ran and paid the govermnent?

I see no reason whatsoever to follow the copyrights of Disney for instance, he's dead. Why should a group of guys that had as much involvment in the creation of Mickey Mouse as I did get a protected monopoly on any of it?

Morals? Ethics? those things have nothing to do with any of this. It's all about greed. IP law isn't moral or ethical at all, it is about showing preferance to a small few over the benifits that would be good for society.

-eSmith.
 
C.Linton said:
eSmith said:
He really believes his Fenders are not Squires.....

They're not. They're Squiers.
Which are Fender products. What's with the hairsplitting semantics. Fender and Squire...
-eSmith.

ROFLMAO! Maybe it's just me but I think C.Linton was pointing out your misspelling of Squier.

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Ooops... too late. Took too long getting the quotes right. ;)
 
Wait, so if noone else sees it, you really care that much to put a decal on a non fender bass?

As I said earlier, I take much more pride in putting MY name on something I had custom made for myself.

There are a couple guys on ebay who makes custom headstock logos with different font depending on what you want.

You could even have a 00000001 serial number put under your Name (done in fender cursive if u like) or whatever else.

As I've said a few times already, I made the Fender logo myself. Since I can do it myself, I don't need to go looking for guys on the bay to make a custom one, ...if I choose to put a dif logo on there...it will probably just go badge-less. Not a big deal either way, since this bass would have to move up a few notches in rank to even make "back-up"(it's fretless, and my fretless playing leaves alot to be desired)

I did ultimately put a Fender logo on it because I spent so much time trying to get it "just right"(pride in counterfeiting? ;))...but I had also played with my own design, but that felt/looked cheesy too. I had also played with the Ferden logo, and it's similar versions, but they didn't seem right either.

Now that I've gotten this feeling of "cheesyness" about my Fender logo, I can just leave it blank. I have a Mighty Mite neck on another bass that I like just fine without a logo, & it doesn't bother me at all.
 
IP law.... Well, that is not doing any good for society, it protects the profits of the few over the betterment of the many, pretty backwards way to serve society if you ask me.

Used as it should be it's very useful for dissemination of knowledge in society and improving the state of the art.

"To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;"
 
ROFLMAO! Maybe it's just me but I think C.Linton was pointing out your misspelling of Squier.


Absolutly he was. Has anyone considered that I might not give a crap? Other than I get a more amusing reaction when I spell it one way over the other.

And in EVERY case, everyone knows exactly what I am referring to so although I may not have satisified everyone on an Aesthetic level, I have surly satisfied the far more important criteria of communication which is the only real purpose of the written language. If I get the ideas out of my head and into yours communication was successful regardless of the spelling of it all.

-eSmith.
 
Openly supporting companies that make a mockery of the purpose of IP law (LIMITED time government enforced monopoly purely in existence to benefit society by avoiding trade secrets) like Fender and Disney isn't all that cool either.

How exactly is Fender making a "mockery" of intellectual property law?
 
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this just made me love Stuart Spector even more...i have never owned one of his basses, but with the release of the coda i have been leaning strongly towards purchasing a 4 and 5 string...and i think now that i see his concern for this brand and his company i will absolutely be on the spector band wagon soon...
 
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