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Fender Decals On Non-Fender Basses
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scotch
It's not rocket science!
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Do you also believe guns should be illegal for everyone because a select few commit murders with them?
You, sir, get the 'Apples to Oranges' argument of the year award! Enjoy!
Thank you. And we need to continue to point these fakes out. And the things that make them a fake.
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well its on a real fender with a replacement warmoth neck..dont know if that counts or not
Look out, they're about to accuse you of being a scam artist.
Just to piss everyone off:
I have done it, yes! I am a horrible human being!
And I am ok with it, AS LONG, as it is purely aesthetic and NOT to scam someone. I have left the Squier and Serial # at the back of the headstock and do not advertise my bass as a Fender (look at my sig), but as a Squier CV. And any Fender fan would know that the decal is not at the right place. Why did I put the decal? Because it's fun to tamper, mod, sand, paint, etc. I build my own pedals, clones of classic pedals, new pedals, etc. I could build amps if I wanted to (and probably will). For me it's just a hobby. I bought the bass fair and square. It is my property. I can do whatever I want to it, EXCEPT sell it as a real Fender... that is immoral and plain wrong.
I have done it, yes! I am a horrible human being!
And I am ok with it, AS LONG, as it is purely aesthetic and NOT to scam someone. I have left the Squier and Serial # at the back of the headstock and do not advertise my bass as a Fender (look at my sig), but as a Squier CV. And any Fender fan would know that the decal is not at the right place. Why did I put the decal? Because it's fun to tamper, mod, sand, paint, etc. I build my own pedals, clones of classic pedals, new pedals, etc. I could build amps if I wanted to (and probably will). For me it's just a hobby. I bought the bass fair and square. It is my property. I can do whatever I want to it, EXCEPT sell it as a real Fender... that is immoral and plain wrong.
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The idea of not getting a gig because the bassist plays a Squier is just plain silly.
I'm also the drummer in a fairly successful indie band out here in LA. We've played House of Blues, Mint, Viper and recently drew around 400 fans to a show just north of the city.
Our bassist plays a Squier with a gnarly snake-skin pickguard. But the dude grooves, the band is tight and the fans come out, so we get gigs.
I'm also the drummer in a fairly successful indie band out here in LA. We've played House of Blues, Mint, Viper and recently drew around 400 fans to a show just north of the city.
Our bassist plays a Squier with a gnarly snake-skin pickguard. But the dude grooves, the band is tight and the fans come out, so we get gigs.
Ludicrous that you think everyone who puts a Fender logo on their bass is a counterfeiter? You're right!
What should I do if I use a MIA Fender neck on a custom body build? Scrape the logo off?
j/k IMO the neck makes gives it more authenticity than the body but I'll never be getting rid of it. Those wondering why I would defame it this way should look up threads about the "boner bass". They made quite a few mistakes on this model.
j/k IMO the neck makes gives it more authenticity than the body but I'll never be getting rid of it. Those wondering why I would defame it this way should look up threads about the "boner bass". They made quite a few mistakes on this model.
Just to piss everyone off:
I have done it, yes! I am a horrible human being!
And I am ok with it, AS LONG, as it is purely aesthetic and NOT to scam someone. I have left the Squier and Serial # at the back of the headstock and do not advertise my bass as a Fender (look at my sig), but as a Squier CV. And any Fender fan would know that the decal is not at the right place. Why did I put the decal? Because it's fun to tamper, mod, sand, paint, etc. I build my own pedals, clones of classic pedals, new pedals, etc. I could build amps if I wanted to (and probably will). For me it's just a hobby. I bought the bass fair and square. It is my property. I can do whatever I want to it, EXCEPT sell it as a real Fender... that is immoral and plain wrong.
Bravo to you sir.
It's your bass. It's your project to have fun with.
Never try to pass it off as a Fender.
scotch
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No, but buying a fake decal is directly supporting a counterfeiter. Again, go back & read more of the posts- it's not that putting a sticker on your bass is illegal. The problems are:
a) Some jerk with a waterslide printer is making money by pirating the intellectual property of someone else.
b) These decalled basses can and do get passed off as the real thing to unfortunate consumers. (see link I posted earlier for the latest)
I see all the points, but until there's fraud involved, I don't understand all the hubris here.
I have to play at a Wine-Cheese venue for all the blue haired people on tour buses and frankly my Fenders are looked at with chagrin but my SR500 is readily accepted, even though tone-wise they are so close, especially compared to my Deluxe Jazz, Active.
If I try to bring a Fender, it just sticks out like a sore thumb or a Corvette in a Rolls Royce car club meeting.
I love my Corvette/Fenders and love my Rolls Royce/SR, but even I can recognize that they are not accepted by every one and so I have a few different brands and designs to fill every need.
Now - if you take that idea - wrong as it may be - and apply it to the ANTI-Squier-With-A-Fender-Decal sort of logic, it makes sense.
It IS about perceptions and for most times the bass part could be played from a CD and nobody would know the difference.
Face it - bass players are the crazy aunt that you hide in the attic when company comes to visit. But if the crazy aunt is sitting right in the middle of the living room, showing off her prison tattoos, then everyone's gonna see her.
I have to play at a Wine-Cheese venue for all the blue haired people on tour buses and frankly my Fenders are looked at with chagrin but my SR500 is readily accepted, even though tone-wise they are so close, especially compared to my Deluxe Jazz, Active.
If I try to bring a Fender, it just sticks out like a sore thumb or a Corvette in a Rolls Royce car club meeting.
I love my Corvette/Fenders and love my Rolls Royce/SR, but even I can recognize that they are not accepted by every one and so I have a few different brands and designs to fill every need.
Now - if you take that idea - wrong as it may be - and apply it to the ANTI-Squier-With-A-Fender-Decal sort of logic, it makes sense.
It IS about perceptions and for most times the bass part could be played from a CD and nobody would know the difference.
Face it - bass players are the crazy aunt that you hide in the attic when company comes to visit. But if the crazy aunt is sitting right in the middle of the living room, showing off her prison tattoos, then everyone's gonna see her.
Oh you think you have some "wisdom" in your old age? What does age have to do with anything?
Hint: we have user profiles for a reason.
Here's how Merriam-Webster defines counterfeit
: to imitate or feign especially with intent to deceive;
: to make a fraudulent replica of
"counterfeiter" is exactly what "everyone who puts a Fender logo" on a non Fender bass is.
So would you say that everyone who has made a replica Shelby Cobra, or any replica car, is a counterfeiter also?
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