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Fender Experts; is this Fender Musicmaster worth it?

It's actually pretty cool....
But waaaayy overpriced.
They're trying to get pawn shop " hey, its Vintage " money for it.
I think 250$ is absolute tippy top for it.
But they won't go for that..even though they probably only loaned the guy who brought it in, and abandoned it, about 100$ tops.
But leave em that price...and see if they call you.
 
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Took the neck off an checked the stamp, here is what I found. Also, looks like it's been repainted twice.
The nut looks good in your picture. For reference regarding what I said earlier here's my headstock. Mine must be a later model
 

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I could be wrong but my spidey-sense is tingling in response to:
  • Headstock shape - looks bulbous esp. around the G tuner
  • Nut appears to be listing to starboard (camera angle?)
  • Neck plate is crooked
  • Finish looks like bedliner
Pickup is definitely an upgrade from the anemic stock component. Not $600 or even in that time zone, IMHO. Responsible opposing viewpoints are welcome.

Paging @WI Short Scaler!
I have no affiliation with @dalkowski whatsoever, so when I say his Chinese made MM Vista is an all around better choice, you can be sure I am not pumping his ad gratuitously. I am a Vista owner also and my opinion is that his Vista at asking price is a better deal than the Fender OP has presented at $250.
 
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Neck is not original and poor quality (crooked nut, garbage tuners, it's just garbage). Body is obviously hacked up for the humbucker and poorly refinished. It's firewood. The pawn shop got taken for a ride thinking they bought a real music master bass and they probably paid $200 for this piece of junk.

Edit: I see now that you bought it for $350. I personally think that was paying too much considering the neck is not a Fender neck but from some sort of Japanese import with a bad fake logo applied. It's not a Fender Musicmaster, it's a parts bass that resembles one.
 
I don't know why so many people think this isn't an original neck. Like @Dabndug said, that's exactly what the early ones look like. I think a lot of people thought it looked bad so they drilled larger holes and swapped out the tulip tuners, so you don't see them original like that too much. The later model Musicmasters look more like what people typically expect, with the clovers and bushings.

I'm no expert but given what these are going for, I think you got a great deal! There are pieces of this bass that sold for more than that on eBay (however reliable that is).

Congrats on the new bass!
 
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That Guild pickup is one of the most powerful passive pickups ever made. Similar to Gibson mudbucker but more refined and articulate sounding. They are highly valued by those who know and usually sell for around $150 or more a piece. Given that the bass itself is otherwise a completely genuine early 70s Fender Musicmaster (despite what some commenters are saying), I would say that you got an absolute bargain at that price.
 
I could be wrong but my spidey-sense is tingling in response to:
  • Headstock shape - looks bulbous esp. around the G tuner
  • Nut appears to be listing to starboard (camera angle?)
  • Neck plate is crooked
  • Finish looks like bedliner
Pickup is definitely an upgrade from the anemic stock component. Not $600 or even in that time zone, IMHO. Responsible opposing viewpoints are welcome.

Paging @WI Short Scaler!
I have to agree, the headstock looks a little weird.
 
it appears that most tb members aren't familiar with vintage Fender musicmaster basses. IMO, $350 is a steal for that bass. the neck and keys bridge, knobs, pickguard and body are 100% original. the body's finish and the pickup is not, but IMO, the vintage guild pickup is worth $200 alone, and i'd consider it an upgrade since the refin devalued it's collectability anyway. congrats!
 
Looks like a legit musicmaster that has a Guild Bisonic pickup in it, and a terrible refinish. I wouldn't go higher than $500 on it, and if I could get it for $500 I'd part it out and sell it's parts for a small profit. Honestly this bass reminds me a lot of the Fender Pawn Shop Series Mustang Bass from 10 or so years ago.
 
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Absolutely not. It's a refin that has been hacked for a new pickup, without the original pickup included. A super clean, all original one might have hit $1,000 on a good day, before the current "bubble." These basses were made by the bajillions, and have never been collectible...and the bubble is bursting something fierce right now.

If I did get the bass, I would restore it to stock specifications. Strip the finish. Remove the new pickup. Find a vintage-correct pickup and guard, and sell the Bisonic to fund them. Fill, level, and re-rout the pickup area. Refinish. I can do all that stuff myself, without having to pay someone. If I was having someone else do the work, I wouldn't even touch the bass.

Bottom line: I would not buy the bass unless it was $250 out the door. Any more, and it's just not worth the labor to get it back to as-stock.

A few notes, regardless:

1. It's an early model, based on the location of the plastic rest. '71 or '72, most likely. These are slightly more desirable than the later top-rest models.

2. Someone above said the knobs are Mustang knobs, as if it was a sign that they weren't original. But those are indeed the type of knobs that came on these basses.

3. They are good basses, when bone stock. They're built solidly, and sound great, IMO.

4. The comments about it not being a real Fender Musicmaster are nonsense. There are zero signs that it is not, plus there is very little incentive to fake one.

5. It is in every way a better quality bass than the Squier Vista version. Not sure what all the hoopla is about those...but it's dumb. The Vistas are fine, but for not much more, you could get a real Musicmaster from the '70s, which is built better, wears its age more gracefully, and will almost certainly appreciate more.

6. It's REALLY worth nothing if the neck isn't straight and/or the frets need replacement.

7. A refin in Daphne Blue nitrocellulose with clear coat would make it more desirable in a future sale. This is the rarest (and most would say coolest) Musicmaster Bass color. And yes, they did come in blue with a white pickguard (not just pearloid, which would be very hard to track down).

P.S. I have been playing a '75 Musicmaster for 33 years. It has been the most gigged bass of my entire time as a bassist; I have played [literally] hundreds of gigs with it, without a hitch aside from a faulty original volume pot, and a broken original E string (which had lasted 34 years before breaking). Great basses, IMO, even though they are ugly as sin. I would put my ugly, beat one up against my most expensive basses any time, in terms of usefulness as a musical tool. I have also restored several, FWIW, including a blue one of the same vintage as the one in this thread (with original white guard). That one, I kept, as I love the blue with white guard, and it was super clean when I got it, except for the body having been partially stripped.
 
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Yeah I own a 71 and this is original bar the pickup and refin. A lot of people bash these basses so don't worry about the naysayers. I play one nightly and gig it regularly and it sounds and play great. Don't listen to the negative people, you got a hell of a deal on that. You could easily flip it on reverb for double what u paid.

congrats!

enjoy the short scale
 
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who did that orange peel paint job? Earl Scheib??

the mix of parts is forgivable, considering it was a parts bass when new, but the failed refinish kills the vintage vibe for me.

personally, I'd offer $250 ~ $300 for it.
 
Here's a neck I've had for ~17 years—with replacement tuners, unlike your originals. And check out the name on it :)

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I stand corrected, the OP's neck is indeed original. I had no idea about the earlier ones with the tiny tuner holes and that early headstock logo.

I thought for sure it was a Japanese neck based on those tuners and the shape, but I'll eat crow on this one.

So the $350 is actually not a terrible buy. It's a junky, fun old Fender Musicmaster with a bad body but a cool pickup. I like the guitar for what it is now