Is there a tonal difference between formvar (I have no idea what that is) and enamel ?
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Fender Fullerton Reissue club
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Is there a tonal difference between formvar (I have no idea what that is) and enamel ?
- Jun 30, 2010
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So why did they mis-place the hs contour decal? A mistake? deliberate? no clue? Inquisitive minds want to know!
This guy nailed it! My 62 jazz neck is (iirc) .78 at the first fret and . 97 at the 12th. My Fullerton ri jazz is .8 at the 1st fret and .89 at the 12th. It's fast but just doesn't feel like a real old jazz. It's almost like they based these off of someone's over sanded refins
No clue. So many details are wrong. Also the letters "trade mark" are way too big (even at the Fullertons).So why did they mis-place the hs contour decal? A mistake? deliberate? no clue? Inquisitive minds want to know!
Based on a sample of 1st/12th Jazz bass neck profiles from 1960 to 1980:
* the 12th fret ranged from .95” to 1”, with most in the .97” to 1” range and some around .90” and up.
* the 1st fret ranged from .72” up to the high 8’s.
The one metric that changed over the 20 years was the 1st/12th difference – an average of .20 to .13 – ie; the 1st fret became thicker. The thickness difference is almost a constant – necks were made in batches to this tolerance??
I bought a B Hefner ‘62’ Jazz neck and it has the Fullerton 1st/12th profile.
Great info .I've never really ventured into the precise science for neck dimensions. Having owned many Jazzes from the 1960's to 90's ,my hands have always been the judge on playability. Those early Fullertons still are the favoured choice.
The accompanying photo from the 1981 Canadian catalogue states the very first batch of Vintage Reissue Telecasters would have these cases.
Due to their higher cost and in the event of making a sale with a substantial discount ,it was very probable dealers would swap them over for the cheaper black Tolex and vacuum formed cases they probably already had in stock. Not every customer was aware of the tweed option while others probably wanted the cheaper ,more durable standard Fender versions.
These days due to the nature of the delicate leather/tweed combination finding clean Fullerton cases has become much harder . They perfectly compliment the range .
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I was unsure my case has real leather edge trims. Now I know.
Hey Fullerton Fans !
After a bit of back and forth, the seller of the "all original" Fullerton P I had purchased decided it was best to just call it a wash and put it back on the Reverb site.
JohnnyAllen said the pick guard was swapped, and after alot of research and local inquiries, I believe he was right.
But the seller insisted the p/g was original and I just didn't feel like the ad represented what the bass actually was - he disagreed
The seller was most gracious, a real stand up person and a class act. No harm no foul.
Still looking for an all original Fullerton reissue, BTW.
You all have been so helpful and forthcoming with information about this wonderful era for Fender - many, many thanks.
I am still learning.
TB rules.
Cheers!
RBJ
After a bit of back and forth, the seller of the "all original" Fullerton P I had purchased decided it was best to just call it a wash and put it back on the Reverb site.
JohnnyAllen said the pick guard was swapped, and after alot of research and local inquiries, I believe he was right.
But the seller insisted the p/g was original and I just didn't feel like the ad represented what the bass actually was - he disagreed
The seller was most gracious, a real stand up person and a class act. No harm no foul.
Still looking for an all original Fullerton reissue, BTW.
You all have been so helpful and forthcoming with information about this wonderful era for Fender - many, many thanks.
I am still learning.
TB rules.
Cheers!
RBJ
Fender '62 Precision Reissue Sunburst Fullerton 1983 w/ Fender Pro Series HSC
The pickguard (like JohnnyAllen said) and the case wasn't the original. Also the wear at the back and no case candy - I think you made the right decision.
The knobs looks also Corona to me and the strange gap at the pickguard/neck. I think its an fullerton with a few Corona parts changed.
Keep us informed if you find another one.
Thanks Fender -
There were more than a few things that kind of rubbed me the wrong way - especially after I said I was going to take it to our local vintage specialist.
In Seattle it is Emerald City Guitars - all they do is vintage. He said he didn't trust them and that is his right.
But I had archived the page and it said "all original" - and to me that means all original.
Furthermore, he had changed the page after I bought it to say it was "as is"". After I got Reverb involved, he was gracious enough to refund my $.
I don't doubt he was sincere, but I just wanted to feel good about my purchase. is all.
Thanks for your help - my search continues for an all original Fullerton reissue.
Cheers!
RBJ
Hey MetsMan -
So I am looking in the vintage guitar guide and it says the range should be $2500 - $3100.
Some of these are like $3700. Do you have any guidance?
Thanks!
. Is this a club with numbers?Here's my 1982 Vintage 57 Reissue Precision. Bought it sometime in the mid-90s for, IIRC, $400. When I went to check it out, I picked it up and knew I wanted it without even plugging it in, it felt so light and vibrant (especially compared to the '72 Tele Bass I had been playing, with its crappy three-bolt "weather forecaster" neck). I just recently put the ashtrays back on it (she felt naked in the presence of my Rickenbackers with their pickup covers on).
Never paid that high for any but probally overpayed before on a couple. Ive owned about 10 of these fullerton reissues over the years but mostly '57s. That price range you mentioned sounds more like it for strats. The P basses should be between around $14-1500 on the low and up to maybe $25-$2600 on the high i believe...the high being a mint like condition in a custom color. Esp if it was LPB or Fiesta red. Although sellers often list for top shelf prices they usually sit unless seller is willing to negotiate.
