That's nice, but it's not a reissue - stock 80's mass produced jazz. Have fun!
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Fender Fullerton Reissue club
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i always enjoy pointing out that the fullerton reissues are closer in age to the originals than to today, so i am doing it again. carry on.
Cool - I am really stoked to play it anyway.
Lovin' the color !
Thanks for the info !
Lovin' the color !
Thanks for the info !
i am no expert...but i have a late 81 fullerton 'p' with the white pickup covers, to which i affixed an early 80's bullet bass 34 inch scale neck...wide and thin with a maple fretboard...and i looooove it! sorry for the derail. pray, continue
No derail worries. I am just scouring TB and the web to learn more about this era and I'm really digging all of the information.
From what I can gather, this was a real moment of change in Fender's storied history.
So as a player and a geek, I am really having fun. I can't wait to play this baby !
Dude, you got an awesome score there and fantastic price. I saw the sale post yesterday (you'll see I commented several times as well) and it was all I could do not to pull the trigger. I would take the risk to buy any 82-85 Fender w/o playing it if need be, particularly at that price. I own an 83 "Fullerton" RI Jazz, and owned a 83 P Bass Elite II (in Sienna Burst, which is what your Jazz is).
In the early 80s Fender brought some dude back on board to "right the ship" if you will, as their rep during the 70s rightfully declined. I believe his first launch was the Re Issues. Later the Standards and Elites all benefitted from the production and Q/C improvements implemented as part of the Reissue projects.
Very early 80s standards are sometimes late 70s carry overs, or a mix of some of the newer features with the 70's features, as they used up old parts. But by 82 I think, the transition was mostly complete. All the production quality improvements that came w/ the RI series, plus some features you saw on the Elites, with some cosmetic and slight functional differences. These only lasted until 84/85 when Fullerton production ceased and moved to Corona. Looking on EBay, I see Ps and Js with features like yours dated almost exclusively 83 or 84, with the occasional 82 or 85.
I'm like you, I like to geek out on these things too, and I tend to like either transitional models or things offered during a narrow time period. My Rick is similar, but I won't further derail this thread.
In fact, to get this back on topic, I'll post my Sept 83 Jazz again, as it has been a few years since I tossed a pic of it in this thread. Note - I changed it to VVT from stack knob about a year ago, but trust me, it's the real deal, V00xxxx s/n and all.
Wow ! That is a beauty !I really appreciate all of your valuable insights and information. I have a '69 J and a '66 P ('66 was a transition period too?). I saw all of your posts JMac, and knew you really have your ducks in a row when it comes to Fender history. I remember you said the J bass I bought had the Fullerton body contour swoops? In any case, I needed a J bass to gig original music clubs with and this one looked like a winner. I am a bass geek ( 3 Lulls, EBMM 5 HH LE, '93 Japanese Tune Bass 5'er, F Bass VF5, 93 Zon Sonus), but I find myself being drawn into the Fender club again. Bud seems like a great guy and I really like the Sienna finish. And the bass looked perfect! And there is something so unique and cool about the all white pick guard/control plate with white knobs and p/u covers. I'd never seen that before on a J bass! I am not going to mod this one, but I am going to play the heck out of it on this upcoming fall project/tour. I didn't want to take my vintage babies on the road, but I wanted to play an older Fender in this band and this one just screams cool to me. And to be honest, I don't think I have ever heard any stock Fender sound bad. But I have heard bad players make them sound awful : ) I am gong to have it set up at Emerald City Guitars (Eric's awesome) and maybe I can get some photos of the neck stamp? I will PM you if/when I get it, if that's cool? I am so glad you are a bass geek like me JMac! I hope I didn't screw up this thread, but my bass geek got the better of me. Thanks to all of you Fender Fullerton era aficionados for helping and straightening me out on my misconceptions.
TalkBass rules!
Rick
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Thanks. The sunlight is hiding some blemishes, but for the most part nothing goes down to the wood so you dont really notice until you have it in front of you. The back has lots of dings and stuff, and the finish is worn off on part of the back of the neck.
Hey Fullerton Fans !
I read this entire post and I just have a few general questions. I'll try to be succinct.
When Fender decided to revamp the entire production line because of quality problems, were their "best practices" strictly for the reissues?
Or did they implement these best practices to the entire production line and the reissues were just a few notches better in terms of quality?
Was this Fender leading the way into "boutique" territory, which may have prompted many other smaller luthiers to follow suit with basses of their own?
The reason I ask is because I have a '69 J and a '66 P which were obviously "mass production models" and I love them dearly and will never sell them.
I'm just wondering what sets not only the reissue series apart from the mass production Fenders of that time, but the modern CS series as well.
And more specifically, other than the control plate what is it that sets the Fullerton reissues apart from the mass production Fenders?
The lower numbers of them made? Way better quality?
This is all for my own information and is not meant as a "troll" or trying to stir up anything.
I just know nothing at all about the Fender CS / reissues series and what sets them apart from the "everyday" Fenders.
I feel so fortunate to have the wealth of all of your information at the touch of a button.
I Love TB !
Thanks for your help you guys.
RBJ
I read this entire post and I just have a few general questions. I'll try to be succinct.
When Fender decided to revamp the entire production line because of quality problems, were their "best practices" strictly for the reissues?
Or did they implement these best practices to the entire production line and the reissues were just a few notches better in terms of quality?
Was this Fender leading the way into "boutique" territory, which may have prompted many other smaller luthiers to follow suit with basses of their own?
The reason I ask is because I have a '69 J and a '66 P which were obviously "mass production models" and I love them dearly and will never sell them.
I'm just wondering what sets not only the reissue series apart from the mass production Fenders of that time, but the modern CS series as well.
And more specifically, other than the control plate what is it that sets the Fullerton reissues apart from the mass production Fenders?
The lower numbers of them made? Way better quality?
This is all for my own information and is not meant as a "troll" or trying to stir up anything.
I just know nothing at all about the Fender CS / reissues series and what sets them apart from the "everyday" Fenders.
I feel so fortunate to have the wealth of all of your information at the touch of a button.
I Love TB !
Thanks for your help you guys.
RBJ
Hey Fullerton Fans !
I read this entire post and I just have a few general questions. I'll try to be succinct.
When Fender decided to revamp the entire production line because of quality problems, were their "best practices" strictly for the reissues?
Or did they implement these best practices to the entire production line and the reissues were just a few notches better in terms of quality?
Was this Fender leading the way into "boutique" territory, which may have prompted many other smaller luthiers to follow suit with basses of their own?
The reason I ask is because I have a '69 J and a '66 P which were obviously "mass production models" and I love them dearly and will never sell them.
I'm just wondering what sets not only the reissue series apart from the mass production Fenders of that time, but the modern CS series as well.
And more specifically, other than the control plate what is it that sets the Fullerton reissues apart from the mass production Fenders?
The lower numbers of them made? Way better quality?
This is all for my own information and is not meant as a "troll" or trying to stir up anything.
I just know nothing at all about the Fender CS / reissues series and what sets them apart from the "everyday" Fenders.
I feel so fortunate to have the wealth of all of your information at the touch of a button.
I Love TB !
Thanks for your help you guys.
RBJ
From what I understand the mission was to re-establish Fenders reputation as a maker of quality instruments.
They decided to issue a series of reissues that would remind the public of the company's legacy and roots at the same time.
A team was assembled, original vintage instruments studied, and built with original tooling where possible.
The result was a run of high quality instruments and also a forerunner of the Custom Shop.
I imagine certain practices continued into their next era but I doubt the same care and attention was spent on the AV or American Standard lines after the first few years.
hey guys, i just listed a bunch of original parts from a v01 fullerton reissue jazz bass if anyone needs some stuff
For Sale - 1982 Fender Fullerton Reissue Jazz Bass Parts (Case,Pickups,Control Plate and more)
For Sale - 1982 Fender Fullerton Reissue Jazz Bass Parts (Case,Pickups,Control Plate and more)
They built these instruments at the original Leo Fender shop - it was basically abandoned by CBS because it was too small - all tooling and jigs were still there in the room in situ, I've even heard that original bobbins were laying around - and were actually wound and used. When CBS sold the company, the buildings weren't part of the sale, the craftsman then went on to start the Fender custom shop
this is the original case. the bass came from the original owner. this is an early bass with gray bottom pickups before the black and red bobbins.
