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Fender JP 90 club?

Hi TB, just signed up as a new member.

Found this thread some time ago looking for information about our supercool JP-90 bass. I say our because it is not really mine, it belongs to my wife, but it is in the family. My wife is a music teacher, nowadays mainly on saxophone, but have had school ensembles and classes during the years and she plays several instruments. I myself have been playing saxophone in more than 40 years, and some cheating on guitar too, but since a few years back my tinnitus have been more evil too me (I shouldn’t have been standing so close to our drummer on stage when we had a cover band for many years) and I think I am a bit afraid today to play sax in bands again.

So for some year a go a thought started to grow, if I should learn how to play the bass. I have always loved the groove in music, the rythm, where the bass is the big star. And it is on the opposite of the frequency scale, in the low end instead of my tinnitus high. My wife have boroughed my saxophones many times so I can surely use her bass. At the time when I write this I haven’t yet started my bass journey, but I have collected a lot of videos on Youtube. What is my goal then? Definitly not to play bass with others, but just have fun at home playing to some music online. If I reach that far, we will see …

Back to the actual item - the bass. It is a late JP-90 with the skunk stripe. The neck is perfectly straight and fine, and nowadays the bass is in very good condition. It is resting in a proper period Fender hard case. My wife bought it cheap some 20 years ago from a highly skilfull luthier who had rescued the bass after an apparently tough life at a former owner. It was cheap because it had a really nasty ding down to bare wood on the body, where you lay your right fore arm.

Today I have repaired the ding with chemical wood and smoothened the surface. Problem was if and how I could paint over the ding, but considered I most likely would have messed it up. I found a white thin sticker piece, unfortunately not exactly the arctic nuance of the body but fairly close, and covered the wounded part and for us it is good enough. I have also swapped the original flimsy pickguard to a WD one, and decided to make the ”strange” shape a little bit better looking with some sanding, and at the same time shielded the cavity. I also changed the knobs to jazz bass ones (I first tried with the brass knobs from the Precision bass, which looked very good indeed, but I wanted knobs with markings) because I thought the original knobs didn’t really belong on this bass, they are so intimately connected to the stratocaster. Finally I gave the fretboard some oil and sanded the back of the neck to be smooth and nice again to get rid of the traces after the former owners rough treatment.

I have tried to play the bass a little bit on our tiny old Ibanez Soundwave 25 amp, and it sounds ok. No rattling or buzzing or scratching from the pots. A new comfortable cushioned strap is attached to and the bass feels very light on the shoulder and no neckdive in sight …

When I have read the thread and seen pictures of your JP-90s I realise that the at least the P pickups on our bass maybe not are the original ones. Another question I have is if there are another fretboard radius on the later versions of the JP-90. According to specs in the thread the bass should have 7.25 radius, but I watched a youtube video where a guy refurbished a JP-90 and measured the neck to be 9.5 radius - it could of course have had a replacement neck? Hope someone here can enlighten me on this matter. BTW which radius is best for a newbie like me?

Sorry for writing so much, it turned out to be a long story, but claiming a membership of this joyful club I wanted to give some background info - and finally of course some photos of our beautiful piece of instrument:

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That new P/G with the black white black bevel looks great on that bass!:thumbsup:

And Welcome!!!!:bassist:
 
Hi TB, just signed up as a new member.

Found this thread some time ago looking for information about our supercool JP-90 bass. I say our because it is not really mine, it belongs to my wife, but it is in the family. My wife is a music teacher, nowadays mainly on saxophone, but have had school ensembles and classes during the years and she plays several instruments. I myself have been playing saxophone in more than 40 years, and some cheating on guitar too, but since a few years back my tinnitus have been more evil too me (I shouldn’t have been standing so close to our drummer on stage when we had a cover band for many years) and I think I am a bit afraid today to play sax in bands again.

So for some year a go a thought started to grow, if I should learn how to play the bass. I have always loved the groove in music, the rythm, where the bass is the big star. And it is on the opposite of the frequency scale, in the low end instead of my tinnitus high. My wife have boroughed my saxophones many times so I can surely use her bass. At the time when I write this I haven’t yet started my bass journey, but I have collected a lot of videos on Youtube. What is my goal then? Definitly not to play bass with others, but just have fun at home playing to some music online. If I reach that far, we will see …

Back to the actual item - the bass. It is a late JP-90 with the skunk stripe. The neck is perfectly straight and fine, and nowadays the bass is in very good condition. It is resting in a proper period Fender hard case. My wife bought it cheap some 20 years ago from a highly skilfull luthier who had rescued the bass after an apparently tough life at a former owner. It was cheap because it had a really nasty ding down to bare wood on the body, where you lay your right fore arm.

Today I have repaired the ding with chemical wood and smoothened the surface. Problem was if and how I could paint over the ding, but considered I most likely would have messed it up. I found a white thin sticker piece, unfortunately not exactly the arctic nuance of the body but fairly close, and covered the wounded part and for us it is good enough. I have also swapped the original flimsy pickguard to a WD one, and decided to make the ”strange” shape a little bit better looking with some sanding, and at the same time shielded the cavity. I also changed the knobs to jazz bass ones (I first tried with the brass knobs from the Precision bass, which looked very good indeed, but I wanted knobs with markings) because I thought the original knobs didn’t really belong on this bass, they are so intimately connected to the stratocaster. Finally I gave the fretboard some oil and sanded the back of the neck to be smooth and nice again to get rid of the traces after the former owners rough treatment.

I have tried to play the bass a little bit on our tiny old Ibanez Soundwave 25 amp, and it sounds ok. No rattling or buzzing or scratching from the pots. A new comfortable cushioned strap is attached to and the bass feels very light on the shoulder and no neckdive in sight …

When I have read the thread and seen pictures of your JP-90s I realise that the at least the P pickups on our bass maybe not are the original ones. Another question I have is if there are another fretboard radius on the later versions of the JP-90. According to specs in the thread the bass should have 7.25 radius, but I watched a youtube video where a guy refurbished a JP-90 and measured the neck to be 9.5 radius - it could of course have had a replacement neck? Hope someone here can enlighten me on this matter. BTW which radius is best for a newbie like me?

Sorry for writing so much, it turned out to be a long story, but claiming a membership of this joyful club I wanted to give some background info - and finally of course some photos of our beautiful piece of instrument:

Congrats and welcome!

Your bass is less than 100 serials newer than mine.

Definitely not the stock p-pickup. I would be willing to bet some other electronics mods were done. Any picks of the insides?

The JP-90 has a slim profile, Jazz-bass neck, 7.25" radius. Over the decades since its introduction, the J-bass neck has changed a number of times, depending on what was "in" at the time. I think the JP-90 actually has the slimmest version of the J-bass neck. There can be considerable variation in radius, and the difference between a 9.5" radius and 7.25" radius is really not much. Just for fun, I just now tried my radius guages on the JP-90 and the difference actually very small, but my JP-90 is 7.25" for sure.

What's best? Just whatever feels good. For people getting into bass, or switching between guitar and bass, the slim neck and small radius usually feels easiest.

For comparison, I also have a Geddy Lee signature bass, the made-in-USA version, vs. the MIJ (original) or the current MIM.

The MIJ and MIM Geddy Lee J-bass are modeled on his "number 1" 1972 bass he bought at a pawnshop. Someone had already sanded the back of the neck down to slim it even more. It has a maple neck and the black block fret markers.

The USA version of his signature bass is different, that one is patterned after his bass *after* he had the Fender custom shop build a new neck for it, since the original was worn out after so much road use and re-fretting.

Geddy Lee said that after he got older, his hands were more comfortable on a beefier neck. So the replacement neck he commissioned is 9.5" radius, considerably bigger (more like most modern J-bass) with aged pearl blocks and bound edges.

I have to agree with Geddy, as I get older, the beefier neck is a bit more comfortable for me as well. But the JP-90 is easier on my back since it is considerably lighter.
 
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Beautiful!

I think it's massively unlikely it ever had a replacement neck; FMIC does make replacements, of course, and they can be attached to a JP90 body easily enough, but the JP90 has a fairly unique headstock shape, and to my knowledge FMIC never produced it for replacement.

Congratulations, and welcome. You and your wife are Member(s) Number 50!
I think the Jazz Bass Plus from '90~'94 shares the headstock with the JP-90. They wouldn't be interchangeable though. The Plus has 22 frets, making that a problem for swapping. Other than that, the Plus has a 9.5" radius and has the metal block in the heel for the microtilt.

I've been more into the Fender actives from the '90s lately. Namely the Jazz Plus since my main players are Kubickis and they share the same preamp, and the Jazz Deluxe since I prefer the smaller bodies over the "normal" passive Jazzes. The Plus and Deluxe both have 22 fret necks too. Maybe I'll keep my eye out for a deal on a JP-90 as an alternative to all the battery powered jazzes in the collection, and I've been extremely pleased with the other somewhat oddball Fenders from the era.
 
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I think the Jazz Bass Plus from '90~'94 shares the headstock with the JP-90. They wouldn't be interchangeable though. The Plus has 22 frets, making that a problem for swapping. Other than that, the Plus has a 9.5" radius and has the metal block in the heel for the microtilt.

Yes, you're right about the headstock shape; my guess is that the bigger obstacle to a replacement neck back then would have been the logo. It's always been easy to find knockoff P and J Fender decals, but I seriously doubt JP90 decals were available until fairly recently.

I'm a pretty committed player of FSOs, and my guitar is a Tele. I've never been able to get into Strats... but the Strat narrow headstock shape, which the JP90 shares, is for my money the best piece of industrial design of the entire 20th century. That's a little hyperbolic, but only a little!
 
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I have always really liked the skinny head stock and slimmed down body of the JP-90. It is very practical. I think the smaller head stock, along with the smaller tuners that have to be fitted to it, decrease the mass at that end and contribute to the nice balance of the JP90.

The comic bubble pickguard is quirky, but I like it.
 
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I have always really liked the skinny head stock and slimmed down body of the JP-90. It is very practical. I think the smaller head stock, along with the smaller tuners that have to be fitted to it, decrease the mass at that end and contribute to the nice balance of the JP90.

The comic bubble pickguard is quirky, but I like it.
I tried to find some of this Formica material to make a pickguard for my red JP-90, but I couldn’t get a sample that was large enough. I suppose I’ll have to wait until a 50s-retro diner closes down.

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My 2nd bass and first 'real' bass was a used all black JP-90. Had one of the best necks of any bass I've ever owned and I played the heck out of that thing. But I can't for the life of me remember what happened to it. Probably sold or traded it.

I see them pop up online now and then and the prices have really gone up. I think I paid around $300 or $350 for mine over 20 years ago and that price range stayed consistent up until recently.
 
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My 2nd bass and first 'real' bass was a used all black JP-90. Had one of the best necks of any bass I've ever owned and I played the heck out of that thing. But I can't for the life of me remember what happened to it. Probably sold or traded it.

I see them pop up online now and then and the prices have really gone up. I think I paid around $300 or $350 for mine over 20 years ago and that price range stayed consistent up until recently.

Yes, it seems so. A little bit ago they'd been stuck in the $500 range for what seemed like several years, but now I'm seeing them creep up toward $700. Some optimist on Reverb even has a refinished one listed for well over a thousand, though at that price it'll be sitting for quite awhile.

It's nicely specced out, though, with a classy silver PG.
 
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My 2nd bass and first 'real' bass was a used all black JP-90. Had one of the best necks of any bass I've ever owned and I played the heck out of that thing. But I can't for the life of me remember what happened to it. Probably sold or traded it.

I see them pop up online now and then and the prices have really gone up. I think I paid around $300 or $350 for mine over 20 years ago and that price range stayed consistent up until recently.

Yes, it seems so. A little bit ago they'd been stuck in the $500 range for what seemed like several years, but now I'm seeing them creep up toward $700. Some optimist on Reverb even has a refinished one listed for well over a thousand, though at that price it'll be sitting for quite awhile.

It's nicely specced out, though, with a classy silver PG.

MSRP from back then
 
Yeah, back in the day when I bought mine new, it was a blow out sale at Guitar Center, $249, no case. I asked the guy I knew who was the fender rep for the region and he said there was no specific case for the JP90, just the generic blow-molded, universal-fit bass case. Same as the retail one at the time. Brand new P and J basses got form-fit cases.

In that era, Guitar Center was notorious for “exploding” SKU’s, separating cases and accessories from instruments even when they were included from the factory. Then they’d try to upsell you the case that should have come with it. It allowed them to advertise unusual low prices, without disclosing that didn’t include the stuff the factory always sent with it. I think they got sued for the practice.

One wonders what the heck they did with all the cases and accessories.
 
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Yeah, for some reason how the strings are wrapped makes a big difference on this bass.

When I first got mine, the action was a mess, big bow and bottoming out at the neck ends

After re-adjusting it about 5-6x, I added shims. After re-adjusting another 5-6x, I ended up with one very small shim, and a number of neck and bridge tweaks.

I got it pretty good, but then kept pulling the G (and E) out the nut slot.

I considered buying those add-on string retainers ...

Somebody here suggested redoing the winds so that 3-4 winds sat atop the string to tighten the break at the nut - and it worked.

Mine has an active Duncan in the Jazz position - really nice bass, almost too easy to play.
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I just bought a nice birdseye maple neck from Warmoth... Problem solved
Nicknamed the PJ- 90 neck, the whammy neck, because it was so inconsistent...
I still have it, looks good on the wall... Looks better than it played!
 
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They are Schaller Deluxe F-stamped tuners - among my favorites.

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Standard Schallers -
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Yes, but heavy as all get-out. 4.3oz. vs 3.9oz. for the standards. Another full set to hit the classifieds soon. I gave in an swapped in a set of M4 Lights. They brought my '90 Jazz Plus down from 8.5lbs. to under 8lbs. The originals were good when standing but quite noticeable when sitting... neck heavy.
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