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Fender MiM Rumors true?

#81
I think it's funny that we're four pages in and it's obvious that people aren't actually _reading_ this thread.

MIM basses are not going to cost $700.

Current MSRP on a MIM is ~$650.

Street price is $400-450ish.

If they raise the MSRP 20%, MSRP will be above $700.

Street price will be closer to $500.

The sky is not falling.
 
#82
I figure if everyone is going to blow a gasket about it, then they should just find an alternative to Fenders... loads of different basses out there... Fender can do what they like. If they blow my mind with an instrument in the future, I might consider it. In the meantime, I'm just gonna buy what I like.
 
#83
So the fatal flaw is that Fender is expecting their brand strength to push this through? Gibson did this with Epiphone and their Studio line years ago, and it didn't really do much for Epi's reputation (an unfair reputation in their Standard and Elitist lines).

What's to say people aren't going to mutiny and go right to T-Birds or other non-Fender types instead of looking for Ps and Js by other manufacturers?


On a different note, a double reed or sax forum would laugh at us for considering $500 an expensive price for an instrument.
 
#84
SuperDuck said:
I think it's funny that we're four pages in and it's obvious that people aren't actually _reading_ this thread.

MIM basses are not going to cost $700.

Current MSRP on a MIM is ~$650.

Street price is $400-450ish.

If they raise the MSRP 20%, MSRP will be above $700.

Street price will be closer to $500.

The sky is not falling.
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And youre right, Superduck. We established this was the MSRP price a looong time ago. Different debates have been made now.
 
#86
gonzilla said:
So the fatal flaw is that Fender is expecting their brand strength to push this through? Gibson did this with Epiphone and their Studio line years ago, and it didn't really do much for Epi's reputation (an unfair reputation in their Standard and Elitist lines).

What's to say people aren't going to mutiny and go right to T-Birds or other non-Fender types instead of looking for Ps and Js by other manufacturers?


On a different note, a double reed or sax forum would laugh at us for considering $500 an expensive price for an instrument.
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And youre correct. But most of them dont own over 3 instruments, and 3 if theyre lucky. We have a right. ;)
 
#87
Unfortunately, I deleted the email that I got. But an online store emailed me, one that we on TB really respect, and said that as of Feb.1 that a Fender American Standard Jazz would sell for $1500.00. I'm pretty certain that was about street. I just remember cussing out loud and deleting the email in disgust. Hate to see what a '57/'62 RI will be hittin' for.:scowl:
 
#92
I agree that some of us will have to start looking for another brand. I myself have recently come to know the joy of Fender, I've always played lower end basses. Now I own two Squiers(4 and 5) and MIM Jazz (5 string), and am looking at picking up a 92 MIM P-Bass. I will most likely stick to the used market on anything if I go more expsensive as I have a wife and son to care for, and another little one on the way. But if they do make squiers the "new" MIM's then I'll be a squier man.
 
#94
lonote said:
I hear that Fender is going to establish more inventory requirements also. In other words, if you want X number of this guitar you will also be forced to carry Y number of these.

I haven't heard anything about the other brands under the Fender umbrella like Guild, Gretsch, Hamer, Ovation, Jackson, etc.
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That's pretty similar to how Marvel Comics operates with their limited edition covers.

1- Comic shop is forced to order 4 issues to get a limited edition cover issue.
2- Comic shop is left with tens of extra issues, banking on the limited edition cover selling enough to make up for the unsold stock.
3- Marvel further dilutes the brand by feeding speculator market, which considers limited edition items an investment.
4- Speculators flee when they realize that mass market products don't rise in value to expected level.
5- Bloated market rapidly deflates due to speculators moving on, a glut of dollar bin comics being sold off, and casual readers moving away from the gimmicky comics market.
6- "Reorganization"
 
#95
gonzilla said:
That's pretty similar to how Marvel Comics operates with their limited edition covers.

1- Comic shop is forced to order 4 issues to get a limited edition cover issue.
2- Comic shop is left with tens of extra issues, banking on the limited edition cover selling enough to make up for the unsold stock.
3- Marvel further dilutes the brand by feeding speculator market, which considers limited edition items an investment.
4- Speculators flee when they realize that mass market products don't rise in value to expected level.
5- Bloated market rapidly deflates due to speculators moving on, a glut of dollar bin comics being sold off, and casual readers moving away from the gimmicky comics market.
6- "Reorganization"
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Good comparison? :confused:

I just have learned I wont be buying a new Fender anytime soon. Even though Im the OP, Im done. Questions have been answered. But continue with the debate.
 
#97
It's a sketchy comparison, but the result will be the same-

Unused stock of poor selling guitars at the store that employees will try to pawn off on the unsuspecting public, followed by increased store cost of standard items to make up for non-selling duds.
 

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