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Fender Mustang Club

People who have owned both, how do you find the Performer compares to the PJ?

I'm a bit fan of the PJ, but I love the Precision tone, I just find this a much more ergonomic package. Seen a good used price on the Performer, though, and wondering how they compare. Other than the nut width, I'm imagining they feel pretty similar? Annoyingly, I know the tone is just something I need to hear in my band mix to know if I'll like it or not.
 
I have had a bit of time on my hands this past year and ended up buying a Mustang P/J Ebony limited Edition which I then modded with GZR EMG pickups and quickly lost interest playing it for whatever reason BUT, I recently decided to take it back out of the case and start playing it again. Throwing on a fresh new set of strings and buying some upgraded Hipshot tuners for it put a new found excitement back in it for me. It really is so fun to play and it's hard to explain exactly why, it just is.

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People who have owned both, how do you find the Performer compares to the PJ?

I'm a bit fan of the PJ, but I love the Precision tone, I just find this a much more ergonomic package. Seen a good used price on the Performer, though, and wondering how they compare. Other than the nut width, I'm imagining they feel pretty similar? Annoyingly, I know the tone is just something I need to hear in my band mix to know if I'll like it or not.

I've had them all MiJ / MiM / USA Mustangs, the PJ is excellent value and is a great bass, although I preferred the fit, finish, hardware quality, sound punch & articulate, playability of the Performer ... BUT my go too is the JMJ Mustang which is just fantastic!!
 
Thanks! Which aspects of the JMJ do you prefer over the Performer?
I’ll chime in.....having owned every Mustang on the planet....and the JMJ is indeed a great bass, but there’s something about the performer that just is that much better (for me). Neck is super comfy (I found the JMJ too chunky and sticky). Tuners are fantastic on the performer. Great tone and different tone options on the performer. If I didn’t need the visuals for a Rickenbacker for my bands shows I would rock the American Performer.
 
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I’ll chime in.....having owned every Mustang on the planet....and the JMJ is indeed a great bass, but there’s something about the performer that just is that much better (for me). Neck is super comfy (I found the JMJ too chunky and sticky). Tuners are fantastic on the performer. Great tone and different tone options on the performer. If I didn’t need the visuals for a Rickenbacker for my bands shows I would rock the American Performer.

Thanks for the opinion! They do look like fun basses. Just not sure if the Mustang pickup is for me
 
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I have had a bit of time on my hands this past year and ended up buying a Mustang P/J Ebony limited Edition which I then modded with GZR EMG pickups and quickly lost interest playing it for whatever reason BUT, I recently decided to take it back out of the case and start playing it again. Throwing on a fresh new set of strings and buying some upgraded Hipshot tuners for it put a new found excitement back in it for me. It really is so fun to play and it's hard to explain exactly why, it just is.

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Looks great! As far as the losing interest, dunno if you're alone in that! All my groups are on hiatus and I'm struggling to find any motivation to do anything bass related in the past month... Hoping the doldrums pass quickly.

-Robert
 
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Thanks for the opinion! They do look like fun basses. Just not sure if the Mustang pickup is for me

I have both the Performer and the JMJ, trading my PJ towards the JMJ. I thought my PJ was great, but both the Performer and JMJ are a step up ... the Performer for quality build and tone flexibility and the JMJ for the whole vintage vibe. Both also have rosewood boards which is a preference for me. If you want a modern mustang you can't go wrong with the Performer, likewise the JMJ if you want vintage.
 
I just acquired my first Fender in a trade...this JMJ Mustang. Really digging it so far. I would, however, like to try it with a slimmer neck and 1.5” nut to see if I like it better. I have pretty small hands for a dude and assumed the short scale in itself would take care of that. And while I can play it just fine, I want to try the smaller neck/nut. This is also going to be a bass one of my daughters learns to play on, so it would help her as well.

My question...does anyone know if the Squier Mustang necks will fit? What about a Warmoth SS neck?

Thanks in advance!

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Would definitely keep the JMJ as is. Its a great bass and you may acclimate to it. I worked with mine and its become my go-to bass and sits really nice in the mix with that proprietary pup which Duncan, JMJ and Fender worked on to get right. The CIJ 'Stang def has the thinnest and fastest neck neck I ever played on a mustang, but the JMJ won me on the tone and feel. Would that neck fit the JMJ I have no idea, but interesting idea.
 
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I just acquired my first Fender in a trade...this JMJ Mustang. Really digging it so far. I would, however, like to try it with a slimmer neck and 1.5” nut to see if I like it better. I have pretty small hands for a dude and assumed the short scale in itself would take care of that. And while I can play it just fine, I want to try the smaller neck/nut. This is also going to be a bass one of my daughters learns to play on, so it would help her as well.

My question...does anyone know if the Squier Mustang necks will fit? What about a Warmoth SS neck?

Thanks in advance!

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I'm pretty sure that Warmoth states that their short and medium scale necks only fit specific Warmoth bodies, and do not fit any Fenders.

IIRC, they do not publish what the neck pocket dimensions of those are.

I was looking at Warmoth for a possible neck mod to a different SS Fender bass on another occasion.
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Yeah, i've actually been down that mustang neck swapping rabbit hole in the past. I tried to get the folks at Stratosphere, to measure a few of the different mustang body neck pockets, and also a couple different mustang necks they had at the time, and they wouldn't for me. Would be some very valuable into to have a good chart of the differences between the pockets and necks of the various mustangs over the years.
I was itching to put an american performer neck on a jmj body
 
Yeah, i've actually been down that mustang neck swapping rabbit hole in the past. I tried to get the folks at Stratosphere, to measure a few of the different mustang body neck pockets, and also a couple different mustang necks they had at the time, and they wouldn't for me. Would be some very valuable into to have a good chart of the differences between the pockets and necks of the various mustangs over the years....
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I'm working on such a dimension table, for more than just Mustangs, comparing them with Squier Broncos, Musicmasters, Squier SS Jags, and the new Squier Mini-P, to see which of the Fender short scale necks and bodies lend themselves to swapping, and to what degree.

My main reasons for beginning this exercise were to try to put a neck with a wider nut width onto certain bodies, and secondarily, possibly ending up with a Maple fretboard.

Not owning most of these basses is slowing down my progress with this, but combing various threads at TB and other sites is gradually filling in the blanks, along with kind folks making measurements and posting them for me. :thumbsup:

Obviously, some pairings are a lot more likely to bear fruit with few or no other supporting mods to the Franken-Fender in question, such as when we are looking at necks and bodies which have the same scale length and the same number of frets, where only the pocket dimensions and neck bolt positions become potential wild cards.

So far, I have been operating under the assumption of all neck pockets being equal [which they are not], and just figuring out the length factors, and on that basis alone, therefore whether, how far, and in which direction a bridge would need to be moved in order to maintain/achieve the correct scale lengths to properly intonate the various pairings.

I have noted that Mustangs, Musicmasters, and Broncos are close kin in that regard, whereas the Jag SS has the same scale but an extra fret to factor in, and the Mini-P has a shorter scale AND an extra fret.

There have been anecdotal posts from folks who say that they have successfully transplanted a certain neck onto a certain body, but most often they do not get into posting any pocket dimensions.

So since I'm posting in the Mustang thread right now, can anyone offer some wisdom as to neck pocket dimension consistency [or lack of] in neck pocket dimensions of the various Mustang models, current and past, along with numbers for some models if you know them, or if you have the model and can measure it ?

Even a single width measurement across the fretboard at the highest numbered fret would be useful in my table.

Thanks ! :)
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I'll try to help you with this if you want. I've got a jmj and a pawnshop mustang. I seem to remember the jmj had a different pocket dimension than others
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Thanks. :)

Now I cannot expect you nor anyone else to take apart their instruments to do measurements, but the width across the highest fret is non-invasive, as also is the nut width, because Mustangs have varied in that regard too.

IIRC, a JMJ Mustang is supposed to be 1.625" [1+5/8"] at the nut.

And if you can get a length of the neck pocket measured along the side, that might be useful as well.

I will assume that the scale length is 30" with 19 frets, and please mention true or false on that.
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Thanks. :)

Now I cannot expect you nor anyone else to take apart their instruments to do measurements, but the width across the highest fret is non-invasive, as also is the nut width, because Mustangs have varied in that regard too.

IIRC, a JMJ Mustang is supposed to be 1.625" [1+5/8"] at the nut.

And if you can get a length of the neck pocket measured along the side, that might be useful as well.

I will assume that the scale length is 30" with 19 frets, and please mention true or false on that.
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Hope these help! I have a late 70s Mustang, an early Musicmaster with a late Musicmaster neck on it, an early Musicmaster neck, and a Squier Musicmaster.

The pocket measurements were tough to measure given the rounded neck heel. They're all pretty approximate but seemed the same.
 

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Hope these help! I have a late 70s Mustang, an early Musicmaster with a late Musicmaster neck on it, an early Musicmaster neck, and a Squier Musicmaster.

The pocket measurements were tough to measure given the rounded neck heel. They're all pretty approximate but seemed the same.
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Yes, Thank You ! :D

Those help a whole lot ! :thumbsup:

Please let me ask a few followup questions though.

The Mustang, OK, understood.

The Musicmasters, early and late, are those both Fender branded, and what years would you say that they are ?

Was the early MM separate neck originally on the early MM body, and if so, was the swap simply a matter of undoing the neck bolts, changing the neck, putting the bolts back, and checking the setup ?

Is the Squier MM one of the Vista series from around 1997 ?

At first glance, it looks to me like any of these necks and bodies could be swapped if you had a reason to do it.

Is that also your feeling ?

Again, many thanks for stepping up ! :cool:

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EDIT : 2nd glance shows that the Squier MM neck is slightly wider, at both the pocket and the nut, so it may or may not be swapable with the other 3, which look to be identical in width as a group.
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