Fender Rumble 100 connectivity issues.

[agedhorse]

Use the output level control on your Sansamp, it will work fine.

 

[Lync]

My introduction to the Rumble line was the 100 when they first came out. The tone/volume/weight ratio was unbelievable. The XLR out sounded good in my IEM's but the volume adjustment was annoying (although adjustments did not affect the XLR as drastically as the amp itself). I eventually purchased and now gig a Rumble 800 which has a pre/post switch and most importantly, the master volume does not affect the XLR volume. I love the post XLR on the Rumbles, just a little tweak and I have a pretty killer tone in my IEM's and FOH. If Fender used this config on the Rumble 100, it would probably be the best modern IEM complimentary amp of all time.

IEM's are awesome and I don't really need an amp. But to have some push on stage helps not only me, but the rest of the band too.

 

[G-Dog]

Any Rumble owners here who haven't posted on the TalkBass Fender Rumble Club thread yet should do so, and get a free membership! Also get answers to your questions, or at least discuss the reasoning behind the designs.

D. The Fender Rumble Club are Fender's value line of bass amplifiers. For more pro, or premium, features they produce the Invalid Link Removed line of heads and cabs.​

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w. The XLR Out being controlled by the Master control emulates micing the amp, where volume adjustments are also carried thru.​

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€. There is even a very nice CabSim circuit in the XLR Out to further emulate micing the amp.​

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¢. No, the volume changes in the XLR Out are not nearly as drastic as people fear it is. It is really quite usable.​

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k. The Master control before the FX Send, and not affecting the FX Return, is not an unusual design. Many FX Loops assume you will use your pedals' controls for blend and/or volume.​

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2. The currently produced Rumbles are the third versions, started in 2014, since a very humble start in 2003, with improvements and advancements in each version.​

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b. Some design decisions are holdovers from earlier beginner/practice versions.​

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ii. The highest power versions are newer with more pro/premium features.​

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¥. The newest 100 V3 with the Pre/Post button on the XLR Out is, as agedhorse says, a temporary concurrent alternate build to help meet quantity demands, with no stated plans to continue, or to add it to other low powered models.​

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J. Of course the Master can mute the amp for switching basses.​

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£. Yes, if you don't use the Overdrive, then turning the Drive and Level knobs fully counterclockwise makes the Overdrive button a very effective, and conveniently footswitchable, mute switch.​

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Have a Very Merry and a Safe Happy holiday season!

 

[steve_rolfeca]

If you have one of the ones with a pre/post switch, hang on to it.

IME, the post-only DI definitely causes strife with most experienced sound people. Even if I explain ahead of time that tweaking my stage volume is going to affect their feed, the moment I touch the Master volume, they clearly hear it, as I see arms waving back at the desk.

Vocalists and some of the lead instruments can get away with level shifts, but our FOH output is integral to the mix foundation that the sound crew set up with the kick and toms.

That's why I always send from the Radial JDI on my pedalboard for important gigs.

Meanwhile, it looks like we may have missed the bus on the supply shortage that resulted in Fender using a power stage with a pre/post switch in some of the smaller combos...

The Fender website no longer refers to the V3 series under that name- now they're just Rumble combos, and only the 800 and 800 Stage back views show the two-button DI output.

I've visited two dealers in my area that have recent stock to confirm. All of the regular combos up to the 500 have the standard DI out.

 

[agedhorse]

If you have one of the ones with a pre/post switch, hang on to it.

IME, the post-only DI definitely causes strife with most experienced sound people. Even if I explain ahead of time that tweaking my stage volume is going to affect their feed, the moment I touch the Master volume, they clearly hear it, as I see arms waving back at the desk.

Vocalists and some of the lead instruments can get away with level shifts, but our FOH output is integral to the mix foundation that the sound crew set up with the kick and toms.

That's why I always send from the Radial JDI on my pedalboard for important gigs.

Meanwhile, it looks like we may have missed the bus on the supply shortage that resulted in Fender using a power stage with a pre/post switch in some of the smaller combos...

The Fender website no longer refers to the V3 series under that name- now they're just Rumble combos, and only the 800 and 800 Stage back views show the two-button DI output.

I've visited two dealers in my area that have recent stock to confirm. All of the regular combos up to the 500 have the standard DI out.

That’s my understanding too.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Your information is partially correct. Only the Rumble 500 and Studio versions provide selection of pre/post preamp for the DI. The Rumble 40 through the 200 do not have this option.

No, at least some newer R100s have this feature.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

If you set the Overdrive settings to "0", the activation button acts as a mute switch.

This is how a lot of us do it.

 

[agedhorse]

No, at least some newer R100s have this feature.

This was a temporary addition so that they could ship these combos. Otherwise they would have to suspend shipping until the supply chain issues get resolved.

 

[WI Short Scaler]

Lots of good info on here. @agedhorse, I had read before that the V3 Rumble 100's had pre/post switch at the DI. But I was never able to find one. If I had I would have bought it in a hot minute. Seems @M-Mittlesteadt is one of the lucky few.

And for the comments that the volume being post volume is not a big deal is not a universal truth, like most things. Our group is 3 pc guitar/bass/cajon and it would be a very useful feature. Despite all having the same scale and similar pickups, my 3 basses have a wide range in their output volume. Yes, I've tried raising/lowering pickups but that issue remains. So changing a bass in a live setting because of the desire to play the two I have with me at that gig or out of necessity makes a big change in our FOH sound. It's very noticeable in our minimal setup, and I run our sound too so always have to be on top of that kind of change. I've found a workaround by finding and marking spots on my EQ pedal for each bass to comensate. But it would still be nice to not have to do that.

Another workaround has been the new (old) Line 6 Studio 110 lowdown amp I just got. No pre/post switch, it's just designed with the DI output to be pre-power amp section. That's a great feature. Nice little amp too. But now I'm afraid that someday when it breaks down that repairs will be either impossible to find or cost-prohibitive.

So I'll be looking for another Line 6 110 as a backup or a Rumble 100 with the "magic" switch.

 

[WI Short Scaler]

This was a temporary addition so that they could ship these combos. Otherwise they would have to suspend shipping until the supply chain issues get resolved.

Interestingly enough after this discussion of the pre/post option on Rumble 100's, I was in a music store last week and as I walked out I saw a new Rumble 100 sitting there. I checked the back and it had that feature. Wish mine did but not interested enough to buy another one just for that.