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Fender Rumble 112
- Thread starter ClassicJazz
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i tried both of them together with the tc and so far i got amazing sounds out of them , like you said pushing them hard with a bit over half of volume knob , now i got to run some test with the rumble head and then separate ...
I always run mine as a pair, as the sound quality is just so much better. The cabinet coupling effect of identical stacked cabinets is just that powerful, and the Fender Rumble 350 is no slouch.
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i did some more sound test with almost full power on both cabs using the tc electronic with basically a flat eq nothing crazy on tone print just some compression . the Results ???? a visit from someone at the leasing office letting me know i was really loud , btw i don't live that close from the office , so that tells me something !!!
i did some more sound test with almost full power on both cabs using the tc electronic with basically a flat eq nothing crazy on tone print just some compression . the Results ???? a visit from someone at the leasing office letting me know i was really loud , btw i don't live that close from the office , so that tells me something !!!
Hi Linnin. I've read some people think the V2 sounds better then the V3 112. What are your feelings about this? I certainly have noticed you are a huge Fender rumble supporter and thought you may have an opinion on this. I don't mind the slight difference in weight with the newer ceramic magnets. That being said i have also read that the ceramic magnets sound a bit better then neo magnets but i have not been in the position to have personal experience with this? I know the V2's are discontinued but i have access to one right now for the same price as the v3.....i just can't play it first and have to go on blind faith. I am running the Rumble 500 head and LOVE it....Thanks!
Actually you have more personal experience with neodymium magnets than you might think. Ever listen to music through a good set of headphones? There's your neo for you. They are the most powerful man made magnets in existence.
Ceramic-Ferrite magnets have been around since the 1950's and are cheap and easy to make (iron filings in clay) and can be molded into any shape. These are weakest of all the man made magnets. Once again, you have heard a ton of ceramic magnet driven drivers in your life time.
For some listeners, the ceramics sound a bit warmer - more familiar and old school. To me the Neos are more like the old & powerful AlNiCo magnets of the top of the line speakers of the 1960's such as the highly vaunted JBL D140 and also EVMs. The casual listener won't be able to tell the difference. In a blind listening test I wonder just how many experts could correctly identify: Ceramic; AlNiCo, and Neodymium driven drivers.
Great info, as usual @Linnin, but you didn't actually answer the feller's question! The magnet material was an aside. The real question (which I also have) is: do you have an opinion on the overall sound of the V2 vs the V3 112 cabs?
I like neos better. I have a pair of V2 Fender Rumble 112 Neo cabinets and they are more accurate & well defined across the entire bass frequency range. The cabinets were constructed at Fender's Ensenada, Mexico facility. The drivers are custom tweaked for Fender by Eminence and are based on the Deltalite II 2512 made in Eminence Kentucky USA. It's a higher quality and better sounding woofer than the custom designed Eminence ceramic-ferrite woofer made by Eminence China. In fact the entire V3 Rumble 112 is manufactured in China by Eminence for Fender and is very high quality as is the V3 Rumble 210. As always in the end it is your ears and sonic sensibilities that make the difference.
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This is all important info, as I am shopping, and most likely for a pair of 1x12 cabs.
The version 3 cab may still be available.
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Now the magnet is not the whole 8 pounds of difference among the two versions, instead maybe 2.
So the newer cab weighs more, even when both are empty.
It is ported, made from plywood, and has a HF horn.
Has it got larger external dimensions then the older cab, and has the older cab got a port and/or a HF horn ?
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So the newer one must either be a bit larger, and/or made from thicker/heavier materials, if the other factors are equal, unless OTOH the speaker weights are more different than I suggested above.
There ARE some heavier weight raw 12'' speakers out there, such as a Black Widow, which apparently is about 15 LB, where a Scorpion is just under 8 LB, and most Neo 12s which I have researched so far are 5-ish.
For the newer version 3 cab, Fender publishes 19'' W x 18.5'' H x 14'' D as external dimensions.
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Other factors are never ever equal except in math which is completely imaginary and exists only in "the imagination of the imaginer" [Frank Zappa as the Central Scrutinizer]
The V3 112 Rumble is heavier than the V2 112 Rumble. So what? Both are discontinued and are Fender Rumble history.
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So I guess I must have stumbled upon the final Rumble.
https://www.amazon.com/Fender-Rumbl...00SKTL6M4/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
And they still are on Fender's site, seemingly active, rather than in a legacy-specific section.
Nonetheless, whatever I learn from this exercise could prove useful when researching other makes and models, whether these ones are disco'd or not.
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If you want them better pounce now. Whatever few are left in the supply line are all there are.
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So I guess I must have stumbled upon the final Rumble.
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I'm thinking about it.
Only thing is I would want TWO of them, and that listing has but one.
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"He who hesitates is lost"~
I'm thinking about it.
Only thing is I would want TWO of them, and that listing has but one.
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Then again, "He who hesitates sometimes finds other deals."
I just did.
At the wkend, I scored a gently used Ampeg Micro-VR rig for less than half price, just over a year old.
It was hard to tell it from new.
Head and cab for $380 CAD (~$285 USD), plus the fuel and time to drive just over an hour away to get it.
In testing at the seller's place, I was quite pleasantly surprised at how much bottom end and overall volume it seemed to have with his Mexican P, especially for what little it weighs.
Hopefully another used cab to match will present itself for the right price before too long (or even another whole rig, as spare heads are a good thing too).
There are enough of those around, and AFAIK they are still actively being produced/sold, looking to have been a successful product for Ampeg.
My back feels somewhat better already !
I'll be gigging it this Saturday with my FrankenRick, and will post what I think in the appropriate thread.
Cheers !
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Had horrendous GAS this morning. Started looking at SS amps, then tube amps and then, when I randomly discovered the Rumble 112 cabs were going to be hard to find, I jumped on a brand new Rumble 2x8. I have the 350w head and the 112 cab... so now I will have the whole micro stack!
This doesn't solve my other problem of my blown Little Mark Ninja needing repair or replacement, but this will be fun for smaller gigs in the meantime (I don't actually play any large ones often anyway).
Will resurrect this thread again in two years to report back.
This doesn't solve my other problem of my blown Little Mark Ninja needing repair or replacement, but this will be fun for smaller gigs in the meantime (I don't actually play any large ones often anyway).
Will resurrect this thread again in two years to report back.
