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As a sound engineer, I know that I only need 12ga for long cables. It is nice to have heavey gauge speaker cable, and I even have a braided one that is functionally probably in the /0 gauges, but for a 3-6' length used in a stack amp, 16 is plenty 
still I prefer 14 and would use 12, but didn't want to pony up the extra expense. I had 2 3ft monsters, not sure what guage they were but probably not bigger than 14 or 16. But they were in the back of my rack head when it got stolen.
still I prefer 14 and would use 12, but didn't want to pony up the extra expense. I had 2 3ft monsters, not sure what guage they were but probably not bigger than 14 or 16. But they were in the back of my rack head when it got stolen.
Ya, still not completely comfortable with it mainly because I never noticed it before and because the amp was used to begin with. I tend to obsess over stuff like this but I guess I can either get over it or return the head and grab a new one.
Before you return the head... Did your used one come with a copy of the ORIGINAL invoice (to the first owner) dated prior to 1/1/17? If so, keep it. It will have a 5 year transferable warranty from that date. A new one has a 2 year non transferable warranty.
Assuming you bought it from a store like GC since you mentioned the option of returning it.
In that case, go in and ask if they still have it. But it is doubtful. I have heard saavy buyers on this thread who DID get the original receipt with used rumble gear, but that also requires a saavy salesman to get it during the buy in process, and use it as a selling point during the sale. It is likely in this case that they don't have it.
Knowing how you say you are, and being similar myself I would suggest getting a new one, 2 years is better than no warranty or paying for GC warranty. And rumbles do sometime fail, overdrive stops working, and the most common scratchy pots. If you would not be able to live with a scratchy master volume pot, it would be a good idea to get yourself a warranty. Even better if they still have the original paperwork, and if they sold it originally they could get it from the computer by the serial number perhaps. If it was sold originally this year, then it is worthless as the warranty won't transfer.
Personally I would try to find one sold In 2015-2016 with an original receipt, rather than a new one. But you may not have that option, and a new one is your best bet for piece of mind.
If you're still not satisfied perhaps you may try a noise suppressor. One guy I know bought a new Roland JC120 that had 'white noise' (their known for that he said) when not playing-but he swore it was the cleanest S.S. amp out there. I think he use a Boss NS-2 noise suppressor IIRC. Maybe worth a try.
In case anyone finds this with a search, I found the specs:
Model Name: Fender 60th Anniversary Commemorative Std P Bass
Model Number: 14-6102-355
Series: Standard Series
Body: Alder
Neck: Maple, Modern 'C' Shape, (Tinted Satin Polyurethane Finish)
Fingerboard: Rosewood (9.5 in. Radius/241 mm)
No. of Frets: 20 Medium Jumbo Frets
Scale Length: 34 in. (864 mm)
Width at Nut: 1.625 in. (41.3 mm)
Hardware: Chrome
Machine Heads: Standard
Bridge: Standard Vintage Style
Pickguard: 3-Ply Parchment
Pickups: 1 Standard Precision Bass Split Single-Coil Pickup (Mid) Controls: Volume, Tone Color: (355) Blizzard Pearl (Polyester Finish) Strings: Fender Super Bass 7250ML, NPS, Gauges: (.045, .065, .080, .100), p/n 073-7250-005
Unique Features: New Knurled Chrome P Bass Knobs, 60th Anniversary Gig Bag, Engraved 60th Anniversary Neck Plate, Satin Tinted Neck, Blizzard Pearl Finish
Source: Mexico
Wrench Sizes: Truss Rod 3/16 in. p/n 0038467000
I'm wanting a Jazz Bass like that, not sure if the Squire or Fender version is different. How do the strings lay on this one ? Nice and low, no bow in the neck ? I saw a used Fender Jazz Bass a few weeks ago, $470 and the neck was badly bowed. I just sort of cringed and gingerly put it back on the rack. What the heck ? Didn't expect that.
A set of RotoSound 40 - 95 strings sure are easy on the neck. I put a set of 50 - 105's on it and it bowed, so I took the loss and got the 40 - 95's. Easy on the fingers too. Very bright but nothing the tone control on the guitar can't change to soft and deep. 40 - 95's can almost sound like a piano down in the lower keys.
They are the same general design, but very different levels of quality. Squiers are made for Fender by Cort in Indonesia; Fender Standard Jazz is made in Fender's factory in Ensenada, Mexico, and finally Fender's new American Professionals made in Corona, California USA. Play them all, brand new of course with their factory setups and stock Fender strings. Play them through the very same Fender Rumble amp with very same settings. This way you see; feel, and hear the differences for yourself. It is extremely important to have hands on experience.
Check out this New Bass Day thread NBD - Fender Classic Series 60's Jazz Bass
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I have a question about the Gain/Master relationship. In more than one post (here and at Fender) it has been suggested that the Master be all the way up and to control the volume with the gain. This leads me to think that no matter where the Master is, there will be no sound from the speakers if the Gain is all the way off. Is that correct?
No it is not. The gain is just that - gain, and not a channel volume. If you turn the gain all the way down you will still get sound. Gain Structure is of utmost importance. There is a Rumble Talk on gain structure and a lot of ensuing commentary. Well worth reading. Gain structure is also critical in the employment of the overdrive. Keep your mind and ears open.
Be sure to check out @G-Dog's Wiki page. It has tons of intel plus links to all of the Rumble Talks.
That is my experience and I have seen links to you on TalkBass from the Fender site, so trust me, I would listen to you first. My question then is why would someone recommend turning the Master all the way up and controlling volume with the Gain? That would disturb neighbors, increase my tinnitus AND scare the be-jeebus out of my rabbits.
Anyhow, it's caused me to start playing with it and the results are educational. Thanks Linnin, I ask you first because I think you are the guy that knows. I have a lot to learn.
These are people that are ignorant of gain structure
Don't we all.
